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5 Easy Steps to Destroy Atheism elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1877-5-easy-steps-to-destroy-atheism#3144 STEP 1: The Law of Existence is true. The Law of Existence states - If something exists, then something is eternal in the past without true beginning, or something came from absolutely nothing (AN). Surely no one seeking real truth would accept a absolutely nothing hypothesis. A. We have absolutely no reason to believe that AN has ever existed in the past or that it could ever be achieved. B. AN has no creative powers and potentiality. This means AN cannot create or be the cause of anything, since its the absence of any thing. C. AN cannot be Discriminatory - If something can come from AN then everything can. D. Certain mathematical absolutes cannot be undermined. 0+0 always equals 0. E. There is NO EVIDENCE, scientific or otherwise, which supports the claim that something can in fact come from AN. All the evidence points to the contrary view. F. It would break the law of cause and effect. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality) G. It would break the law of uniformity. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism) H. AN has no limiting boundaries, so not only would everything be able to come from AN (c), but it would be able to do so ALL the time!! STEP 2: The universe had a beginning arxiv.org/pdf/1204.4658v1.pdf Two cosmologists, Audrey Mithani and Alexander Vilenkin both from Tufts University in Massachusetts, have stuck their necks out with a mathematical paper that considers the mathematics of eternity. In it, they take a close look at the concept of a universe that has no beginning or end. Currently, there are two main descriptions of the universes existence that suggest that the universe is eternally old—without a Big Bang. The first is the eternal inflation model, in which different parts of the universe expand and contract at different rates. Then, theres the idea of an emergent universe—one which exists as a kind of seed for eternity and then suddenly expands into life. Thing is, it turns out that the idea of an eternal universes can only allow certain types of universe expansion to occur—and then they go on to show that the current inflation models that have been suggested have to have a begining. Needles to say, some of the math in their paper is pretty complex—you can read it here, though, if youd like—but they manage to sum the whole thing up rather neatly: Although inflation may be eternal in the future, it cannot be extended indefinitely to the past. They also manage to scupper the idea that an emergent model of the universe cant stretch back eternally—but they choose to do that using quantum mechanics. Agains, neatly summing it up, they say: A simple emergent universe model...cannot escape quantum collapse. Basically, theyve taken aim at the two current models of the universe that asume its eternally old, and conclude that none of these scenarios can actually be past-eternal. Which means the universe definitely had a beginning. STEP 3: Whatever existed in the past without beginning must be spaceless and timeless. Infinite regress is impossible. Why ? Why cant the past be infinite? The answer is that it is impossible to complete an infinite series by addition. The series of past events is complete. Think of this mathematical fact. Why is it impossible to count to infinity? It is impossible because, no matter how long you count, you will always be at a finite number. It is impossible to complete an actual infinite by successive addition. The past is complete. This claim means that the entire series of past events ends now. It ends today. Tomorrow is not part of the series of past events. The series of past events does not extend into the future. It is complete at the present. If it is impossible to complete an infinite series by successive addition (as it is impossible to count to infinity) the past cannot be infinite. If the past is finite., that is, if it had a beginning, then the universe had a beginning. We have strong philosophical reason to reject the claim that the universe has always existed. STEP 4: Whatever existed in the past without beginning must also be personal. The truth is that we know the event (the creation of the universe) must have been beyond space and time. The cause of the Big Bang operated at to, that is, simultaneously (or coincidentally) with the Big Bang. Philosophical discussions of causal directionality routinely treat simultaneous causation, the question being how to distinguish A as the cause and B as the effect when these occur together at the same time [Dummett and Flew (1954); Mackie (1966); Suchting (1968-69); Brier (1974), pp. 91-98; Brand (1979)].{2} Even on a mundane level, we regularly experience simultaneous causation; Therefore it cannot be physical or material. There are only two types of things that fit this description. Either abstract objects (like numbers), or some sort of intelligent mind…But we know abstract objects don’t stand in causal relations and are causally impotent. Therefore the transcendent cause of the origin of the universe, must be an unembodied, personal, space-less, immaterial, timeless, intelligent mind. Secondly, only a free agent can account for the origin of a temporal effect from a timeless cause. If the cause of the universe were an non-personal, mechanically operating cause, then the cause could never exist without its effect. For if the sufficient condition of the effect is given, then the effect must be given as well. The only way for the cause to be timeless, but for its effect to begin in time, is for the cause to be a PERSONAL agent who freely chooses to create an effect in time, without any antecedent determining conditions. One of the main questions we frequently ask is how could a timeless, non-personal cause give rise to a temporal effect like the universe? You see, if the cause were a non-personal set of necessary and sufficient conditions, then the cause could never exist without its effect... If the cause were permanently present without beginning, then the effect would be permanently present as well. And finally, since GOD would be the personal uncaused first cause, he is self-directed and self-motivated, and acted volitionally…If the cause were not personal it would not be capable of self-directed, self-motivated, volitional action. Preventing it from being the first cause. STEP 5: A supernatural, timeless, immaterial, personal, eternal, uncreated creator must be responsible for the existence of the universe.
Posted on: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 16:53:47 +0000

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