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According to alleged, UNSUBSTANTIATED and totally FABRICATED Arab traditions and contrary to the original stories from the Biblical records, Ishmael is their father (Arabs) just as Isaac was the father of the Israelites. From this very outset, we must be aware that the above so called traditions did not exist in the mind of the Pagan Arabians prior to their revelation in Muhammads Quran. According to the Torah, Abraham was of the Hebrew tribe. And there came one who had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he lived in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshkol, and brother of Aner; and these were confederate with Abram Gen 14:13 The Hebrews were one among hundreds of Semitic tribes that lived in the land of what is now called Iraq. The following are IRREFUTABLE proofs, putting to rest FOREVER, all Muhammadan and Arab claims for ever having had any prior knowledge of Abraham, Ishmael or anything else in the BIBLE, BEFORE their revelation by Muhammad in his Quran. And he said, Hagar, Sarais maid, where did you come from? and where will you go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.9. And the angel of Yahuwah said to her, Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hands. And the angel of Yahuwah said to her, I will multiply your seed exceedingly, that it shall not be counted for multitude. And the angel of Yahuwah said to her, Behold, you are with child, and shall bear a son, and shall call his nameYeshma-El; because Yahuwah has heard your affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every mans hand against him; and he shall live in the presence of all his brothers. Genesis 16:8-12 As usual, Arab tradition is not supported by the Bible - which is after all, the only original source of the story of Ishmael - or any other recorded and independent story. The Christians believe that Isaac was the one about to be slaughtered. Obviously where this is mentioned specifically, that is an alteration. It says in the Bible itself that God ordered to Ibrahim that his only begotten son should be sacrificed. The Christians also believe that Ismail was the elder son. Therefore if the only begotten son was ordered to be slaughtered he had to be the older one. So there is a contradiction in the Bible. We believe what is mentioned in our sources. I believe it is clearly mentioned in the ahadith that Ismail alahi salaam was the one about to be slaughtered. It is well known that the long line of prophets referred to in the Quran were mostly descended from Isaac and not from Ishmael, and the reason is not far to seek, for Isaac, according to both Bible and Quran, was the Son of Promise, a Gift from Elohim. Ishmael, on the other hand, as we learn from the Torah, was the son of the bond-maid Hagar and is, consequently, nowhere in the Quran spoken of as a Gift from the Most High.. Why do the interpreters of the Quran declare that it was Ishmael and not Isaac who was offered as a sacrifice to the Most High? O my Lord! grant me a righteous (son)! So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear. Then when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him he said: O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: now see what is thy view! (The son) said: O my father! do as thou art commanded: thou will find me if Allah so wills one practicing Patience and Constancy!So when they had both submitted their wills and He had laid Him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice). We called out to him O Abraham! You have already fulfilled the vision! thus indeed do We reward those who do right. For this was obviously a trial. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice. Sura 37:100-107 First and foremost, the verse asserts that Abraham is telling his son that he saw a vision, which he thought it came from Allah. Now these are some of the main problems the Quran presents which will have Muslims even saying it was not Allah who gave Abraham this dream / vision but it was Shaytanu. God never ordered Abraham to kill his son, Ismail Traditional Muslim Scholars have been teaching the Muslims that God inspired Abraham to sacrifice his son Ismail by slaughtering him with a knife. This is completely against what the Quran states. While this gross crime of a father slaughtering his own son is mentioned in the Bible, it is not supported by the Quran. These teachings of the traditional Muslim scholars are only a reflection of the outside corruption and Jewish influence on the early Muslim scholars. Jewish influence could not affect the word of God in the Quran but found its way into the Hadith books that were written 250+ years after the death of the prophet. The prophet was not around to defend all the false teachings in them. Reference: submission.org/Abrahim_His_Son.html Now we have the following problems such as: 1) No where in the Quran does it show any verse that says that it was Allah who told Abraham to sacrifice his son. 2) No where in the Quran does Allah say that he gave Abraham that dream. 3) No where in the Quran does it show that it was Gabriel who told Abraham to sacrifice his son. Secondly, not once is the name of Ishmael mentioned in all the above verses. If it were Ishmael, why not call his name and identify him? Hence, if it were Ishmael this is totally irreconcilable with the original story in the Torah as given directly to Moses by the Almighty. And it came to pass after these things, that Elohim tested Abraham, and said to him, Abraham; and he said, Behold, here I am.. And He said, Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell you. Genesis 22:1-2 Now in the Torah the Almighty made it crystal clear to Abraham by emphasizing that his ONLY SON, Isaac, was the one from his first wife Sarah who was old in age and barren and not from his concubine Hagar thus eliminating Ishmael from both the attempted sacrifice as well as from the blessing of inheriting the Promised Land. Mow some will say that we are here confronted by an extremely serious and MONUMENTAL dilemma; either the Torah is false or the Quran is. Both cannot be correct when they are giving CONTRADICTORY versions of the same events.
Posted on: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 01:24:39 +0000

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