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Al-Arnauts Shqiptars Gegs Tosks aka Albanians When the Shqiptars ( some Albanians) say that we are the descendants of a Paleo-Balkans people, they do not lie to the world, but themselves. In human history there is nothing similar to a Shqiptars absurdity. Here we show how the Shqiptars sowing fog. Illyrians are not Europeans Some Shqiptars are not Illyrians Some Shqiptars are from Caucasus Some Shqiptars are from Arabia-Yemen Some Shqiptars are related to Roma people Some Shqiptars are mix with “slavs” The Shqiptars are people who were brought to the Balkan by the Turks The Shqip language is not related to any other Indo-European language The Shqip language is not related to Illirian The Macedonian Population in Albania Crimes of wild Shqiptars-Gegs over Macedonians Who are the Shqiptars? are Shqiptars Ghost people? We dont have any chronicle(Roman or Byzantine) about any surviving Illyrians. Normal, Illirians are not vanish in the air. Some Albanians today are ancient people. But... Where Shqiptars live over 1000 years? Shqiptars come from some magical mountain? Shqiptars are waiting in some cave over 1000 years? toponyms in Shqiperia-albania Large number of toponyms in Shqiperia-albania are of Macedonian (Slavic) origin. Archeology We dont have any archaelogical documents on transition of Illyrians into Albanians. Shqiptar language Shqiptar language is not associated with any Indo-European languages. Some pseudo linguists push Shqiptar language in the IE group,which is really funny. Some Shqiptars are not Illyrians Whether todays Albanians are really the same as the Illyrians? Fake Fact:the Albanians and the Greeks....the only people that are surviving all the turbulent past of the Balkans. Fake Fact:all aboriginal people,Macedonians , Illyrians, Thracians, Dardans, Mizians and the other.. disappeared Must indicate on the unjustified identification of Albanians and Illyrians. Stories about Albani in central Albania were created by Albanian pseudo-Historians.They have suceeded to put these Albani in their maps of Illyrian tribes,yet we could not see any Albani or Albanoi on older maps of Illyrian tribes,just Taulanti.. Facts: -Аs we can see, the so-called Illyrian toponymy, has a clean Causcassians origin. -The Illyrian toponymy mentioned in ancient times that were kept do not follow the Albanian sound change laws. -The fact that Albanian is totally alien to the Illyrian language based on the Illyrian inscriptions. illirian:KLOHIZISTHOTORIAMARTAPIDOVASTEIBASTA VEINANARANINDARANTOAVASTI shqiptar:Ashtu thuhet aleksander, te jesh pasardhes. Ti nuk je baba yt, ti je pasardhesi i tij! -In Albania, and nowhere, there are no archaeological findings that confirm the link Albanian=Illyrians. -Similarly, the Illyrian coast is not a likely source since Albanian has no inherited nautical or indigenous sea-faring terminology, and has instead supplemented this absence with subsequent borrowing from Latin or Greek or recent metaphorical lexical creations. -In Albania, and nowhere, there are no archaeological finds to confirm that Albanians live more than a few centuries (2-3) in the Balkans. -Albanians are Fake Illirians. -Albanians are descendants of the newcomers Causcassians people,who settled the Balkans together with the Turks. [video=youtube;cmY4kT9nq3w]youtube/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cmY4kT9nq3w[/video] youtube/watch?feature...&v=cmY4kT9nq3w -The idea that they are direct descendants of Illyrians Albanians launched the communist regime of Enver Hodzа. -the European public research in 1962 was officially informed at the scientific conference in Florence called Settimo Congresso internazionale delle scienzie onomastiche,that the fake-Illyrians are in neighbours. Some Shqiptars are related to Roma people E (E3b*,E3b1...etc.) Kos.albanians 47,4% Mac.roma 29,82% I*+I1a+I1b*+I1c Croatia(mainland)37,0% Bosnia 53,65% Hercegovina 70,91% Srbia 36,28% Kos.albanians 7,96% Macedonians 34,17% Mac.roma 5,26% ARE ALBANIANS FAKE ILIRIANS?....YES.... Some Shqiptars are mix with “slavs” ..a large part of todays Albanians are nothing else but albanised Serbs. Researchers list...Malisore, Dukađine, residents of the District Elbasan, one of the largest Albanian tribes Krasniqi. Dion Cassius: HISTOIRE ROMAINE, FirminDidot, Paris 1848/1889 According to family story, origin of Albanian Mirditi tribe goes back to Man-Macedonian Orthodox, trek in northern Albania and there accepted Catholicism (179) Hahn, J.G.v. Albanesische Studien, S. 213. За мирдитите по-подробно вж. Bartl, P. Die Mirditen. Bemerkungen zur nordalbanischen Stammesgeschichte. MZfB, 1, 1978, p. 27–69. The Shqiptars are people who were brought to the Balkan by the Turks There are two different and opposed notions of Albanians, their origin and historical role. First,from the 11 century to the Berlin Congress in 1878, Arbanasi are Caucasian people,brought in the Balkan in mid-11th century, and second , from this date to today. Children Caucasus, wrote the medieval writer Magius Patavius. Arbanites are not same people like Al-Arnauds,Gegs,Tosks and other tribes from Arabia and Caucasus Arbanites are not same people like Shqiptars. Arbani(tes) are the people who lived in the Balkan region before the arrival of Shqiptars. Historical sources mention them only in the Middle Ages..not before Arbani(tes)are no nation or tribe. They are part of Roman (and East Roman) Empire,and Slavic kingdoms. Macedonian Orthodox Church there has had great moments and there is no mention of Arbanasi. Macedonian Saintsd there talk with the people of the Macedonian language. Macedonian Saints there writing with the Macedonian alphabet. Historical sources mention Tosk and Gegs in time after turks arrived to Balkan...not before Мedieval historical sources suggests that inhabitants of Albania and Slavs speak the same language-slavic. Tosk,Gegs and Al-Arnauts dont speak slavic.They dont speak any IE language. All medieval toponyms, oronyms and so on are same as the ancient Macedonian, Slavic or Latin language. Shqiptars toponyms, oronyms and so on..in time after turks arrived to Balkan...not before Matia-Arban Prof. Selšpčev correctly found that Arbania is the same as “Slavic” Macedonia in every aspect, and in the language, and in the economic and geomorphologic. FACT:The Shqiptars are people who were brought to the Balkan by the Turks They have no any roots in Balkan. Fake Fact:Arnauts are fight agains turks,since 14 cent. From the Ottoman register of 1431.. for Sandjak Arvanid : -after Conquest Albania, the Turks were timariots only 30% - The remaining 54% are already muslim Albanian...NO NEW... - 16 % local Christians, including even episcops and mitropolitans (bishops) (134) What this means? Arbanasians been muslims in time before turks arrived to Balkan. ...the Albanian elite was awarded privilege by the Turks, and, as a result, was on guard against Slavic insurgency, a dread that increased after the flight of tens of thousands of Albanians from Kursumlija (Toplica district) and Vranje, after the Serbian takeover in 1878. They retained no memory of alliances and blood ties between Albanian medieval princes (from the families of Dukagjin, Arianit, Muzaka, Mataranga, Gropa, Thopia, Kastriot, and many others) and the Serb and Bulgar dynasts, the Slavic krajls.1 Instead they prayed with the Turks that the seven kingdoms should not be united. Albanian kingdom was a mbreteri, not a Slavic krajli. 1. Milan Sufflay, Srbi i Arbanasi (Njihova simbioza u srednjem vijeku) (Belgrade, 1925), pp.121-135 Fact:Arnauts are fighting against Arbanas. Arnauts are not Arbanas. Fake Fact:The ethnonym applied to the people now known as Albanians is first attested from the 11th century (e.g. Anna Komnene, Alexiad 4.8.4), although such a nominal connection does not prove an actual link to the Illyrian tribe. The first reference to a lingua albanesca dates to the later 13th century. Fact:...and reached Achrida (OHRID)....valley called Babagora...the city to Comiscortes of (city) Arbanon-Apßatvov (not Albanians) origin.... Anna Komnene, Alexiad 4.8.4 Historical fact: the Arbanites in medieval Balkan Kingdoms and Empires were not numerous. Historical fact:the expansion of the Arnauts occurs only in the last 250 years, with the great help of the Turkish state. Historical fact:large disparities in terms of number of Arbanites on the Macedonians , Serbs, Greeks and Bulgarians in the Balkans in the time before the arrival of the Turks. Historical fact:no historical sources for any Shqiptar,Geg or Arnaut before Turkish conquest of Balkans. conclusion: It is difficult to assume that there is a great Albanian or Arbanit ethnic core of many centuries ago. Fact:No large Turkish settlement is recorded in Albania except a small number of exiles from Konya, locally called Konici. There are also the Yürüks of Kodjadjik on the mountains to the East of Dibra where they were stationed apparently to safeguard the Rumeli-Albania highway. Theories on the beginnings of Albanians around the core of Caucasus Albanians,brought in the XI century, this process is physically feasible. Additional immigration similar population from the Caucasus was feasible under the Turks. With their own Albanian language, Albanians call their land ‘Shqiperia,’ (FAKE )meaning the ‘Land of the Eagles’ while themselves ‘Shqiptare,’ meaning the ‘Sons of the Eagles.’ FACT: meaning SPEAK. The Albanians are divided into two principal ethnic groups: The Gegs to the North of the Shkumbi River and the Tosks to the South. The Turks called these two regions Gegalik and Toskalik. Not only in their dialects bul also in the outlook and social behaviour the Gegs differ from the Tosks. The Gegs are considered as keeping national characteristics purer than the Tosks. Albanians,Arnauts and Arbanas The Albanians and Arnauts, composing nearly the entire of these refugees, Crimean war After the Crimean war ...More deplorable still was the lot of the Circassians and other Caucasian tribes, who, to the number of 400,000, sought a refuge in Turkey in 1864. The pasha intrusted with the installation of these immigrants sent many of them to Western Bulgaria, in the vain hope that they would cut off all contact between Servians and Bulgarians. The Shqip language is not related to Illirian Ulpiana was the ROMAN name of Pristina. Nis first name was Naissus, derived from the greek Naissos. Nis is also mentioned under the name Nysa in the Greek Mythology. Scodra (Livius) Tomor from Tomarus CAUCASUS(Strabo, Pliny, etc.) Vulgar Latin caballum horse Rum. cal, Alb. kal Vulgar Latin cubitum elbow Rum. cot. Alb. kut Vulgar Latin lucta struggle, fight Rum. lupt, Arum. luft, Alb. luftÎ Teutamus (in Greek Tευταμoς; lived 4th century BC) was a Macedonian officer. ...sons of Lethus son of Teutamus. Iliad, 10.428-429 Teuta,the last Illyrian queen.... -Teuta - a name that is very often in Albania (sorry Shqip) Бut, before the emergence of Shqiptar Romanticism, the name was unknown in Shiptars. And this is Illirian fragment... KLOHIZISTHOTORIAMARTAPIDOVASTEIBASTA VEINANARANINDARANTOAVASTI ANA OETHE ISER Ashtu thuhet aleksander, te jesh pasardhes. Ti nuk je baba yt, ti je pasardhesi i tij! Djali yt, dhe djemte e tij jane pasardhes te tu por nuk jane ti...por jam dakord qe jemi ilir! And this is Messapic fragment... klohi zis thotoria marta pido vastei basta veinan aran in daranthoa vasti staboos xohedonas daxtassi vaanetos inthi trigonoxo a staboos xohetthihi dazimaihi beiliihi inthi rexxorixoa kazareihi xohetthihi toeihithi dazohonnihi inthi vastima daxtas kratheheihi inthi ardannoa poxxonnihi a imarnaihi undeciphered; from the Vaste inscription (Corpus Inscriptionum Messapicarum 149) his is modern Albanian... Ashtu thuhet aleksander, te jesh pasardhes. Ti nuk je baba yt, ti je pasardhesi i tij! Djali yt, dhe djemte e tij jane pasardhes te tu por nuk jane ti...por jam dakord qe jemi ilir! The Shqip language is not related to any other Indo-European language Turkish historians(Evlya Chelebi) mention their Caucasian origin. The greatest authority about Illyrians, John WIlkes, stated that this ending in Shqiptar -AR is typical for Ural-Altaic nations such as BulgAR, TatAR, KhazAR, MagyAR, HungAR, etc. This also relates to the toponyms and other names in the Caucasus. some examples: Albanian-Caucasian Bushati - Bushati Baboti - Baboti Bashkimi - Bashkimoi Gegh - Gegi Sheshani - Shashani Shkoder - Shkeder CHECHENIA=ICHQERIA and ALBANIA=SHQIPTERIA lists of common Caucasus-Albanians words: Chechen=naana,Albanian=nene,English=mother Udi,Udish=Baba,Albanian=babe,English=father Chechen=Ysh ,Albanian=Ishin,english=they were Chechen=shu,Albanian=ju,English=you Chechen=Vasha,Albanian=Vella,English=Brother Udish=Pasc,Albanian=Perjashtoj,English=Rule(In) Udish=Haq,Albanian=Plak,English=Old Udish=egene,Albanian=nese,English=If Udish=Marak,Albanian=Rezik,English=Peril Udish=Kalaka,Albanian=Qytet,English=City Udish=Bure,Albanian=Pare,English=Watch Udish=Ar,Albanian=Aq,English=Many Udish=Uxt,Albanian=Uje,English=Water Udish=Ug,Albanian=Nga,English=From Chechen=Chaaara,Albanian=Hale,English=Fish Udish=Mus,Albanian=Madh,English=Big Udish=Gar,Albanian=Djal,English=Son Udish=Dilag,Albanian=Deshiroj,English=Wish Udish=Bakayn,Albanian=Behem,Englisg=Become Chechen=Iighana,Albanian=Inatosur,English=Angry Udish=Besai,Albanian=Bej,English=Make Udish=Os,Ose,Albanian=Pas,Pasi,English=After Udish=Tanesta,Albanian=Nenshtrohem,English=give in Chechen=aakharkho,Albanian=katundar,English=peasan t Chechen=alsamoo,Albanian=me shume,English=more Chechen=aagan,Albanian=eker,English=wild Chechen=aara dalan,Albanian=jashte dal,English=get out Chechen=aaradaqqa,Albanian=terhoqa,English=withdra w Chechen=aaradovlilla,Albanian=rrugedalje,English=e xit Chechen=aare,Albanian=rrafsh,English=plain Chechen=aarmo,Albanian=majte,English=left Chechen=arzha,Albanian=zeze,English=black Chechen=aaz,Albanian=ze,English=voice Chechen=baarz,Albanian=varr,English=grave Chechen=balda,Albanian=buze,English=lip Chechen=banka,Albanian=burre,English=man Chechen=baar,Albanian=arre,English=nut Chechen=barsa,Albanian=shoh,pashe,English=sight Chechen=bashkhan,Albanian=shkelqyer,English=excell ent Chechen=bekhka,Albanian=borxh,English=debt,obligat ion Chechen=bil ma,Albanian=fal me,English=im sorry Chechen=besan,Albanian=zbehte,English=pale Chechen=borsha,Albanian=kusheri,English=male Chechen=buha,Albanian=buf,English=owl Chechen=buta,Albanian=bar,English=grass Chechen=cham,Albanian=shijshem,English=tasty Chechen=yaalla,waala,Albanian=eja,English=come here Chechen=chu,Albanian=hyj,English=get in Chechen=chugholla,Albanian=hyrje,English=entrance Chechen=daago,Albanian=djeg,English=burn Chechen=dahiita,Albanian=dergoj,English=send Chechen=dehndi,Albanian=gjedhe,English=cattle Chechen=dain,Albanian=drite,English=light Chechen=daakhkan,Albanian=gjendem,English=located Chechen=delqa,Albanian=dreke,English=lunch Chechen=dowgha,Albanian=djeges,English=hot Chechen=duq,Albanian=aq,English=so many Chechen=dyelkha,Albanian=kerkoj,English=to cry Chechen=eskar,Albanian=ushtri,English=army Chechen=ghaighanii,Albanian=hidheroj,English=make sad Chechen=ghaala,Albanian=kala,English=castle Chechen=gaalat,Albanian=gabim,English=mistake Chechen=ghishto,Albanian=ngrehine,English=building Chechen=gharlima,Albanian=ngrirje,English=freezing Chechen=goola,Albanian=gju,English=knee Chechen=gowza,Albanian=zotesi,English=skill Chechen=guu,Albanian=koder,English=hill Chechen=hakkha,Albanian=terheq,English=draw Chechen=hoqa,Albanian=kete,English=this Chechen=hostam,Albanian=gozhde,English=nail Chechen=khalkhar,Albanian=kercej,English=dance Chechen=khan,Albanian=kohe,English=time Chechen=khasbesh,Albanian=kopesht,English=garden Chechen=keeda,Albanian=qetem,English=cut Chechen=khena,Albanian=kohe,English=weather Chechen=khila,Albanian=qene,English=been Chechen=khilam,Albanian=kam,English=have Chechen=kho,Albanian=koqeve,English=egg Chechen=kog,Albanian=kembe,English=leg,foot Names for example: Chechen leader= Shamil Basaj(ev). Basaj is similar or even same as Gegaj,Muljaj..etc,Albanian surnames. Clothing: Albanian national hat(Keche)is of Caucasian origin and been worn by Azeris(A Turkic people which now live on territory of caucasus ALBANIA). Kish church=KISH (shqiptar) means Church...coincidence? April 989 AD – The Varangians aided Basil in his victory over Bardas Phocas’ lieutenant, Delphinas, at Scutari, on the Asian side of the Bosphorus. Arnavutköy (meaning Albanian village in Turkish) About the uniquity of the albanian language, Jirecek and Hamp give very good explanations about it. I recomend you as one schollar to another to read them. root mama-: mother=nënë burim, kryemurgeshë? amësi,? atdhe, vatan atdhe, vend amëtar nënë: prej nëne Origin of Gegs and Tosk (Shqiptars or Albanians) The Albanians are from the Caucasus, originally. Caucasian Albania was located on the eastern area of the Caucasus between the Caspian sea and the tips of the mountain ranges. Old Albania was known only for wild dogs and baren snow covered mountains, for which it recieved the name Albania by foreigners (Alba-white). When Aleander the Great conquered Asia minor, he took with him the great leader of the Albanian tribes and gave him as a present an Albanian dog. Among other things, Caucasian Albania did not attract conquerors, because of its poverty and difficult terrain. With the comming of the Arabs, they converted the Old Albanians in the 8th century to Islam. But meanwhile, at the time, the Arabs were waging campaigns in Sicily, dividing it into two parts, (hence there was the Kingom of the two Sicilies). In order to populate their part of Sicily, the Arabs brought with them Old Albanians from the Caucasus. To this day, their descendants live in Sicily. Then in 1042, the Byzantine Empire attacked the young Serbian state after having defeated the Arabs in Sicily and having brought the Sicilian Albanians under their command and christianizing them. The leader of the Byzantines who led the Albanians was named Georgius Maniakos. Maniakos brought Albanian mercenaries from Sicily to fight the “Serbs” and they settled in two waves in modern day Albania, first the mercanaries came, and then came the women and children. After the defeat of Maniakos, the Byzantines would not let the Albanians return, thus the Albanians requested that the Serbs let them stay on the land. They settled under mount Raban and the city of Berat (BELGRAD) and from this, the “Serbs” and other,called them Rabanasi or Arbanasi. The city of Berat was known as Belgrad also, before the Albanians came to settle there. They mostly tended sheep and cattle and lent themselves out to Macedonian and “Serbian” nobles as brave soldiers. Michael Ataliotos describes the events in his chronicle: Historia, Corpus Scriptorum Historiae Byzantinae. Impensis ed. Neberi, Bonnae. BUT.... Archaeological findings from Albania not confirm this story. All material culture in Albania points to the Slavic population. Genetically, the Shqiptars are connected with the Arab world and the Roma people. The Albanians call themselves Shqip-tari. This name is not Indo-European in origin and contains in it the Ural-Altaic suffix ar or tar. Much like: Khaz-AR, Av-AR, Magy-AR, Bulg-AR, Hung-AR, Ta-TAR - Ship-TAR. Taken together with the Shqiptar-Albanian toponyms on the territory of the former Caucasian Albania, this theory on the etymology of Shqipatr becomes more plausable. The original URAL-ALTAIC speaking Caucasian Shqiptar-Albanians were part of the AVAR KHANATE which had one of its early capitals in Caucasian Albania (hence Albanian topnyms there, the possible Ural-Altaic etymology of the suffix in the word Shqip-tar and the similarities in national costume with Caucasian peoples - the non-Indo-European Georgians, in particular). The historical rendering of the ethnonym Shqiptar (or Shqyptar by French, Austrian and German authors) in use from the 18th century (NO earlier) to the present, the literal translation of which is subject of the eagle. But,all Western scientists who have studied Albanians, agree to Shqiptars means - Highlanders. Turks called them Arnauts. It is Arabic name which means that those who did not return. Before the Turkish conquest of the Balkans, history does not record the words as Shqiptars or Arnauts. History tell us that the Shqiptars fought against the Arbanasians. Sultans are cursed his predecessor, Suleiman II (1687-1691), who brought Gegs in the Balkans, because it is in Europe Osmanlian empire was already called dark, or larcenous vilaet. Dr. N. zupanic wrote: True fatherland of the Gegs is NOT Macedonia, but the vilaet of Caucasus! Arnauts-Gegs are the product of wild Kurds. Authors wrote that the mass-migration of Gegs-Mirdites (Kurdistan) from Asia, in the second half of the XVII century, which was made forcibly by the Osmanlian military authorities,1. had the mission to be broken christian element with a new religious-Muslim population. The territory of North Arvanija (Albania, R.I.) Osmanlian occupying authorities were called Arnautlak and its inhabitants Arnauts. Ežen Pitar ( the people who have led the Turks in the Balkans) R.Gorgevik (Circassian in our country )
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