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Craigslist police people make me laugh. Unfortunately I forgot the proverb that says if you argue with a fool than you will look foolish. Here has been our conversation (read from the bottom up) FYI We now have four lanes of bowlers involved in this discussion so you have definitely shown your true colors to at least 20 women. From their responses, I dont think this is the sort of exposure you wanted for The Imaginarium. Everyone who searches craigslist has agreed they need to flag your ads. Lets let the public decide if you belong in the owner or dealer category. . On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:17 PM wrote: Here is the CL YOU terms of use. Please read through it and let me know if I am violating any rules. If so I will correct it immediately. If not than please leave me alone. Thanks. craigslist > about > terms of use WELCOME TO CRAIGSLIST. We hope you find it useful. 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MISC. Users complying with prior written licenses may access CL thereby until authorization is terminated. Otherwise, this is the exclusive and entire agreement between us. If a TOU term is unenforceable, other terms are unaffected. If TOU translations conflict with the English version, English controls. See Privacy Policy for how we collect, use and share data. If you feel content infringes your rights see cl/about/dmca Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Pat Spence Date: 01/15/2015 7:53 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Drexel Mahogany long Dining Table with folding leaves and 6 chairs Put your ads where they belong under Dealer and your employees can continue to work. Their problem seems to be your ethics. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 7:49 PM, craigslist4848748003 wrote: Ok. My employees will be glad that the way YOU feel will affect their livelyhood. Very classy. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Pat Spence Date: 01/15/2015 7:44 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Drexel Mahogany long Dining Table with folding leaves and 6 chairs NOT QUITE. When I worked for NFM I worked with Mrs. B and the furniture was good quality. Lets see how many people I can rally to get you off of craigslist. The girls on my team said you need to get a clue. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 7:38 PM, craigslist4848748003 wrote: Please. Nfm is the worst offender. They sell particle board that falls apart once you move it and at high prices. Please just leave me alone and go let off your self righteous idea that its your job to interpret rules and enforce them. We are done Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Pat Spence Date: 01/15/2015 7:18 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Drexel Mahogany long Dining Table with folding leaves and 6 chairs I have been to your store. I found overpriced junk. I also sold new furniture at NFM for seven years and used furniture when I lived in Missouri both in an antique mall and as an estate sale coordinator for nearly ten years. During my time in Missouri I never cheated by advertising on a For Sale by Owner site. You are a business owner with a business license and a retail store. Instead of attacking me for calling you out on the cheating, put your advertisement where it belongs and save your self righteous tirade. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:53 PM, craigslist 4848748003 wrote: first of all you should understand that youve never been into my business so you dont know anything about me. What I am is a hard working small business owner who helps provide for 6 other families and seven other individuals by selling furniture and providing them a paycheck. I also sell lower than most other people can because I work really hard to get the stuff that I have its just seems very obtuse to me for someone to assume that Im out to get you with that furniture or bad deals. I believe that your time is more important than worrying about whether not I file my ads under the right listing. I believe that if you actually came in to one of my stores and took a look around you would be impressed by the prices and the quality of what we have. craigslist is a free app for everybody to use and with many different choices for listing different items. last I checked you did not lose any money by me listing it unde for sale by owner and also I own all of the items that I have listed on Craigslist personally so I am NOT wrong in listing them under for sale by owner. I personally pick out these items and most of the time I left them and put them in the stores I also have employees that help me unload trucks and clean them and list items. I wish that you could leave me alone and it seems very petty to have people flag me just because you have a vendetta against me. I work too hard for people to be self righteous and think before they know all of the details. I have not broken any rules on Craigslist and would be glad to speak with them about that if they so deem it necessary. I hope that in the future you will have a larger world view and realize there is more to what is going on than you think and that you would give everyone a fair opportunity to explain themselves before judging and taking it upon yourself to interpret the rules. I hope you have fun bowling tonightand I am sorry that you will never be able to experience all the great items that we have since you have closed yourself off to buying from good honest hardworking individuals Thanks James Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Pat Spence Date: 01/15/2015 6:40 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Drexel Mahogany long Dining Table with folding leaves and 6 chairs I sent an email to craigslist and filed a complaint against you. Hope they knock you off the site for good. I, like most of my friends, only look at For sale by owner because we dont want to buy from businesses like yours...tired of getting screwed by used furniture Dealers. It is my business to not get screwed. When I go to bowling tonight I will tell all of my friends about you and your response so they can flag you too. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:11 PM, craigslist 4848748003 wrote: you know is it ok not really hurting anybody I didnt realize that so putout by that. maybe you just worry about your own business and will take care of ours Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Pat Spence Date: 01/15/2015 5:07 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Drexel Mahogany long Dining Table with folding leaves and 6 chairs This section of craigslist if For Sale by Owner. Stop advertising stuff from your business.
Posted on: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 02:58:43 +0000

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