Crash: Malaysia B772 over Gulf of Thailand on Mar 8th 2014, aircraft missing By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 01:10Z, last updated Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 04:28Z An Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200, registration 9M-MRO performing flight MH-370 from Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia) to Beijing (China) with 227 passengers and 12 crew, was enroute at FL350 over the Gulf of Thailand in contact with Subang Center (Malaysia) when radar and radio contact was reported lost with the aircraft at around 02:40L (18:40Z Mar 7th). The aircraft would have run out of fuel by now, there have been no reports of the aircraft turning up on any airport in the region. The airline confirmed the aircraft is missing, a search and rescue operation has been initiated. Subang Air Traffic Control reported at 02:40 local Malaysian time, that radar and radio contact with the aircraft had been lost. In a press conference the airline stated, the last contact with the aircraft had been about 160nm northeast of Kota Bharu (Malaysia), over the Gulf of Thailand. The aircraft was piloted by an experienced captain (53, 18,365 hours total) and a first officer (27, 2,763 hours total). The aircraft carried 153 Chinese citizens, 38 Malaysians, 12 Indonesians, 7 Australians, 3 French, 4 citizens of USA, 2 New Zealanders, 2 Ukrainians, 2 Canadians, 1 Russian, 1 Italian, 1 Taiwanese, 1 Dutch and 1 Austrian. Search missions have been launched along the estimated flight track of the aircraft from Gulf of Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos to China (South China Sea). At about noon local time Vietnamese search personnel reported they have detected an ELT signal about 20nm south of the coast of Ca Mau. Vietnam officials subsequently stated that they have not yet detected flight MH-370. China reported that the aircraft did not enter Chinese airspace (editorial note: which effectively discounts rumours and false reports by a Malaysian outlet of the aircraft having landed in Nanning (China)). Nanning Airport stated the aircraft did not arrive at the airport. According to The Aviation Heralds radar data the aircraft was last regularly seen at 17:22Z (01:22L) about half way between Kuala Lumpur and Ho Chi Minh City (Vietnam) at FL350 over the Gulf of Thailand about 260nm northnortheast of Kuala Lumpur and 160nm northeast of Kota Bharu 40 minutes into the flight, followed by anomalies in the radar data of the aircraft over the next minute (the anomalies may be related to the aircraft but could also be caused by the aircraft leaving the range of the receiver). Aviation sources in China report that radar data suggest a steep and sudden descent of the aircraft, during which the track of the aircraft changed from 024 degrees to 333 degrees. The aircraft was estimated to contact Ho Chi Minh Control Center (Vietnam) at 01:20L, but contact was never established. Infrared VISSR Satellite Image Mar 7th 18:00Z (Graphics: AVH/Meteosat): Reader Comments: Engine(s)-? By John on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:46Z Engine(s)failure would be another possibility. Use Some Tact By Dana on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:45Z Why dont you all stfu and let the authorities do their job. The people on this jet have loved ones! Crashed By John May on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:45Z UPDATE [12:37]: Tuoi Tre, a leading daily in Vietnam, reports that the Vietnamese Navy has confirmed the plane crashed into the ocean. According to Navy Admiral Ngo Van Phat, Commander of the Region 5, military radar recorded that the plane crashed into the sea at a location 153 miles South of Phu Quoc island. Exact text from Yahoo Deep Stall By ais on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:44Z Whats a deep stall ? How can that happen ? 153nm off tho chu By pit on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:44Z water depth 50m/150ft Crashed By John May on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:43Z Crash has been confirmed via Yahoo. Pretty reliable source IMO. ELT By zamir on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:42Z ELT is also activated automatically when it gets wet... I find it odd that no one is suggesting the possibility of sabotage.....Regardless of cause, sad event Besides the obvious By Joe Momma on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:37Z break up, mid-air collision, hijacking, bomb, pilot suicide, I hope they find the wreckage so we can all learn from what happened. Article By Scott on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:27Z Here is the English version I found on their site. TUOITRENEWS UPDATED : 03/08/2014 10:16 GMT + 7 According to a High Command of Navy statement, the plane went down at the waters between Vietnam and Malaysia, some 153 nautical miles (300km) off Tho Chu Island in Kien Giang Province. The Naval Zone 5 is ready for the search and rescue mission. Last Position By Captain Ahab on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:27Z For some reason, my other post disappeared... Well, it seems that FlightAwares data ended before the aircraft actually went down. ADS-B was lost south of where the Vietnamese Navy tracked the falling primary target. Ack! Hard on me! Here is the google translate of the Tuoi Tre article By Muttley Macclad on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:22Z Sorry, the link posted was no link, the article posted was no article... soooo.... take it for what it is. I searched for the news agency and then copied and pasted the headline into google translate, which gets a c- for accuracy...I couldnt find an english flag on the website. TTO - 11am At 8-3, Rear Adm. Ngo Van Phat, the Navys political commissar 5, said the Navy has identified the 5 position of the aircraft crashed Malaysia Airlines in adjacent waters between VN and Malaysia, the Tho Chu island, Phu Quoc (Kien Giang) about 153 nautical miles (about 300km). Speculation By James Bruno on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:21Z I hope were not looking at another Air France 447 but it certainly seems like it, maybe a stall or breakup highly unlikely but I hope to god there are still some survivors and another bad crash on the 777 reputation. By Robert on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:20Z Seeing this report was filed over 2 hours ago. and looking at the range of a 777.. this cant be good.. Thoughts are with everyone on board. @Mike By Ryan on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:19Z This is a forum, rumours and discussion are provided and generated here, not always facts. If you or the families are emotionally unsuited to this style of discussion perhaps you best stay off the internet. It is not the publics job to cater towards your or others emotional states. @ John By Lionel Holguin on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:19Z John: The High Altitude High Speed Stall could have happened, I dont what to think that we can come to a determination here. However if two factors are present, speeds above 500 knots or the high airspeed and high bank turn 30 degrees is enough to lose control and/or lift. I believe without looking at the B777-232 charts that at FL350 your max speed is at 510 knots @ 35,100 feet, once you reach this altitude you have to bleed off speed for altitude. Control would have been compromised at this point. Again I dont claim to know what happened. Having worked at the US Army Safety Center while on active duty I can tell you that there is no determination until all the facts are in. Malaysian Plane By Thaddeus Buttmunch on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:15Z The Vietnamese said the last radar signature was 120 nm south of their southernmost province. That puts it in the Gulf of Thailand but the media will not confirm this. Cannot be Good MH370 crashed near Tho Chu Island By Vietnam Aviation on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:13Z From tuoitre news. now we have crashed position. Start seeking and recusing, pls. Link to Tuoi Tre Article By Scott on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:10Z Here is the article from Tuoi Tre. Radar track MAS370 By oldschool767 on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:08Z Flight Aware shows the ADS-B data hits to cease right after level off at FL350. This position puts them over the Malaysian mainland. Other news is quoted at 20 minutes later, which would be over water. Initial news reports on air disasters are historically inaccurate and can be even more so in other parts of the world. The suddenness of this incident is very suspect as to the cause, but its only speculation at this point. The position being either on land or the shallow Gulf waters should yield some answers sooner than later. I hope the passengers and their loved ones will be in everyones thoughts and hearts. @John By Amy on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:06Z Totally agree! By A. on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:05Z Tuoi Tre usually is a reliable source (at least better than any anonymous aviation source from China) Bathymetry Data for the Region By Crashguy on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:04Z Does anyone have a good source of information for bathymetric data for the gulf of Thailand/south china sea? Quick google search reveals max depth of GoT as about 260 feet, dont know how accurate that is. This is critical knowledge for locating the cvr and fdr. Dont like this By Lionel Holguin on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:02Z I dont like the fact that I was not able to finish my comments about the ELT, apparently you can only post so many words or characters. Nevertheless I hope that the SAR operations are moving fast. I have been in the left seat of many airframes and can tell you that this is a very modern airframe and that if what I have heard is true I am thinking that the PIC turned this aircraft around and headed back to the closest airfield. This aircraft has redundant systems and also has floatation devices and the exit and wing slides double as rafts: along with beacons to be able to locate them. I am praying that there are many souls in rafts and flotation devices right now waiting for a SAR bird to come get them. I will continue to pray for these souls thru the night. stall By John Brown on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 05:02Z High speed high altitude stall? By (anonymous) on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 04:59Z UPDATE [12:37]: Tuoi Tre, a leading daily in Vietnam, reports that the Vietnamese Navy has confirmed the plane crashed into the ocean. According to Navy Admiral Ngo Van Phat, Commander of the Region 5, military radar recorded that the plane crashed into the sea at a location 153 miles South of Phu Quoc island. Im not sure how accurate, but being Yahoo! some credibility there. Malaysia Airline By Martin on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 04:57Z Malaysia is a great 5 star airline. Sad news, cant imagine those pilots, crews and passengers on the flight, thinking it was just another day, and another flight. Possibilities By Tex on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 04:52Z Given the position of the ELT and the almost immediate loss of electrical power by process of elimination ,Chinese grnd to air low probability. Higher probability mid air collision, catastrophic hull failure. Causes-equal probability at this point-terrorism, fire/explosion. Prayers for the victims. @John By Mike on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 04:50Z I totally agree with you John. I am referring to unnecessary comments that do not add value to the discussion. Thank You! Pray for their safe return By Andre on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 04:46Z Im a crew member too but for a different airline and would never ever want something like this to happen. Please pray for the safe return of all souls on board and their families to be strong in this time of crisis. MAS Crew. You have the prayers of your comrades in the south. By John on Saturday, Mar 8th 2014 04:40Z Whilst this is a horrific tragedy that will effect so many people. This is a forum which allows for discussion and the freedom of speech. For the most part all comments have been very respectful. If people are looking for real facts, they should never turn to an open forum. RIP to all those on board! Horrible Horrible.
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