John 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. -This clearly shows that there is a universal opportunity for salvation. John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. - this clearly shows that every man recieves some sort of light and depending upon mans reaction to Gods grace of giving light, they receive more or less light. 2Peter3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 1Ti_2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth - Pretty self explanatory, God does not will for any to perish, but that all should be saved, to say this verse means anything otherwise is to add a private interpretation of scripture. Eze_33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? - if God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked and he is not willing that anyone should perish than why does the wicked perish? i think the answer is obvious: Free will. Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - Jesus died for the world, not just the elect. Also how does the Armenian respond to this in relation to losing salvation: So I got to thinking about the blood of Jesus and I had a very interesting thought, When I was younger I would watch a lot of shows on criminal investigation and forensics, something I remember is that many times a murdered would kill someone and then go and try and clean the blood off of whatever surface the victims blood was on, and it never mattered how much they tried to clean, they could use chemicals, they could wipe things down, but there would almost always be traces of that victims blood on the surface, blood is extremely difficult to clean basically, and that thought got me excited about the fact that Jesus blood has been applied to my soul and that it doesnt matter how much I mess up or how many times I sin, because even I cant get rid of the blood of Jesus from my soul! John 10:28-29 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Fathers hand. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 1Jn_5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know (Can you ever really know if it can be lost?) that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Let just say that I do not really consider myself Arminian or Calvinist, I believe that God in his grace brings fallen man to a position by giving light where he can make a decision to accept or reject him, I believe if her rejects God may give him over to a reprobate mind and allow him to spiral downward in his depravity, I also believe in Eternal security of the believer which is where I differ with most Armenians, But I differ with Calvinists in that I do not believe God ordains only some to salvation while condemning others based on his sovereignty . So I guess you could say im sort of in the middle I would like to say that Im somewhere in the middle of the Armenian and the Calvinist. I believe that God in his grace elevates every man to a position where they can make a decision to reject or accept him and the light that he gives them, To me this is the only way to stay true to ALL scripture,(Joshua_24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, CHOOSE (Free will) you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. ) if they reject I believe God will just leave them in their own depravity, I do not believe that God has picked and chosen for certain ones to be saved or to be damned, I believe he has chosen and elected those who he foreknew would accept Christ to be saved (Rom_8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. ) [Note the connection between election and forknowledge) , In this aspect i disagree with the Calvinist on election. I also believe that God will for his honor and glory maintain the believers salvation for eternity, So I do hold to the doctrine of eternal security and differ with Armenians in that aspect. So am I considered a Calvinist or an Armenian? I consider myself a Biblicist I suppose.
Posted on: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:05:43 +0000
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