Read this article below this is very importance do you understand toilet paper documents means I can wipe my black arse with it wont stand up in court. THE ADVERTISER 25 / 10/ 1995 THE BRIDGE ROYAL COMMISSION Secret business not on island by Michelle Weidenhofer A letter was signed by 18 women supporters of the women business not to give evidence in the royal commission now remember Henry Rankine and the same 18 women signed a letter for Melva Linda Carter claiming she my uncles daughter Telford Uniapon in 1997 were the Adelaide courts recognise her claim remember no birth records were used on Point Mcleay Mission S.A. on her birth records states Rolland Carter as her father not Telford Uniapon [ brothers of arms leader ] johnny Campbell Mr Campbells evidence about womens business, which was at times quite graphic, clearly upset a group of Ngarrindjeri women in the body of the hearing room. The women, who are supporters of the secret womans business, had come from Point Mcleay to see the tendering of two letters telling the commission they did not want to participate. We firmly believe that there is womens business associated with Hindmarsh Island and no decision of your royal commission will change our minds , the women say in the letters. The letters, which were signed by 18 Ngarrindjeri women, were written in response to a commission request that supporters of womens business give evidence. Counsel assisting the commission, Ms Andrea Simpson, and another female commission staff member visited some of the women at Point Mcleay last weekend. Speaking outside the commission. Ms Simpson said it had been arranged that one or two of the women would give evidence on behalf of the group. The hearing continuing by [ brothers of arms leader ] johnny campbell Brothersofarms Leader by Allan Chirpy Campbell This is an Ngarrindjeri women, Mrs Jacobs 15 years older then Doreen Maude Kartinyeri, have said it in the Federal Royal Commission that Robert Tickner have put in 18 / 03 / 1996 in Adelaide, South Australia. MRS JACOBS: Well, I mean I don’t - I’ve never read the letters, but I mean Doreen Know more than what I do, but 5 I mean it doesn’t matter to me because I haven’t got that much to I mean, I know part of the story because I mean, you know, from my grandmother, you know, I she told me story and I know the area that I know the area, that it is petty sacred and I mean I’ll show Justice Mathews the burrial ground later on and that, what we went and had a look at this morning, which was very important to us, and I mean Hindmarsh Island, or Kumarangk as it was called, 10 like it’s got the name, the name means something as well, Kumarangk, and it is very, very special, very sacred. It is not really secret; it’s sacred and I mean the island is very sacred to me because there’s descendants there and, you know, they’re burried all there, they’ve dup up, and you 15 know my concern is that I don’t want any more development. I want it to stop as it is because like we’re not supposed - you know, our lore, L-O-R-E, is a lot different to white men’s law, and I mean that’s what I want to, you know, I don’t want anything interfered any more. I want the island to stay as it is, you know, I don’t want no - because once 20 they, once the bridge goes across, we lose everything. MS DITTON: And were these things that used to happen that you cant talk about it front of men? 25 MRS JACOBS: There are things like we talked about the other night, like what Daisy mentioned, miwi, you know, like I mean I can’t say them things to men, as when I rang you up on the tape and then I told you look, what I mentioned something, and I said cross it off. That kind of thing I don’t want to talk about in front of a man. 30 MS DITTON: But if you have a women Minister? MRS JACOBS: If I have a women Minister, yes, I could talk about, I could talk about these things. 35 MS DITTON: Thank you. Aunty Daisy, Mrs Rankine. Mrs Rankine Mrs Rankine, are there any difficulties for you about some of the about talking with a having a man Minister? Are there some things you cant say if there is a man Minister? 40 MRS RANKINE: Those women’s business, is very sacred to us. The things that we mentioned the other day, they shouldn’t be mentioned with men around. 45 MS DITTON: And if there is a women Minister, will you be able to tell Justice Mathews more of this? ________________________________________________________________ CHIR 18 / 03 / 1996 8 DR KARTINYERI by Brothersofarms Leader PLEASE READ THIS MRS RANKINE KNEW NOTHING OF WOMEN BUSINESS ON HINDMARSH ISLAND THESE MINUTES TAKING IN 1994 WERE SHE CLAIM TO BE NGARRINDJERI ELDER AND SPOKE PERSON FOR THE ABORIGINAL FAMILY AND ELDER IN THE LOWER SOUTH AUSTRALIA REGION AND WERE SHE GAVE EVIDENCE IN TO THE ROYAL COMMISION IN TO THE WOMEN BUSINESS ON HINDMARSH ISLAND S.A. 1996 HER AUNTY NANNA LAURA KARTINYERI CLAIM IN 1994 SHE KNEW NOTHING OF WOMEN BUSINESS WASNT PAST TO HER BY HER MOTHER OR GRANDMOTHER QUEEN LOUISA KARPANY [ NEE MCHUGHES ] AND MY MOTHER 1st COUSIN TO NANNA LAURA KARTINYERI DAISY RANKINE IS ALSO MY MOTHERS AUNTY [ brothers of arms leader ] johnny Campbell 35 MS DITTON: Thank you. Aunty Daisy, Mrs Rankine. Mrs Rankine Mrs Rankine, are there any difficulties for you about some of the about talking with a having a man Minister? Are there some things you cant say if there is a man Minister? 40 MRS RANKINE: Those women’s business, is very sacred to us. The things that we mentioned the other day, they shouldn’t be mentioned with men around. 45 MS DITTON: And if there is a women Minister, will you be able to tell Justice Mathews more of this? PART ONE [PAGE1 ] Watch committee 10 of February 1994 7.30 pm Other Way Centre 185 Pirie street Adelaide S.A. Present ; Devon Karpany - Coorong Merva Varcoe and grandson Justine Daisy Rankine - Ngarrindjeri Elder ( spokes person for the Aboriginal Family Elder in the lower South Australia Region Beverly Carter Frank Trevorrow - Coorong Charlotte Sezeckerly - chairperson Patrick Byrt - Visitor ( first attendance 1st public meeting in Pitt street 1966 2nd meeting in 1968 the 4th attendance 1994 taking minutes ) Apologies; Peter Dixon Jane Bramford Donny G Smith and Les Gollan 1. Minutes ; Delete items I and 7 page on page 2 minutes moved by Daisy R. and Frank T. passed - no phone no by D. Karpany 2. Business from minutes Charlotte spoke about items on page 2 all executive meetings will be stepping down for re-election c.w. items 4 page 2 Jane Bramford ( treasurer ) and Michael Sykes have records - Lisa Robinson has also had her telephone bill paid - many people have collected money on behalf of W.C. since Charlotte S. has been chairperson but, she as only seen $20 for head bands from Lisa R. if people and family members , are raising money for W.C. , thats has happened to it ? Charlotte W. Devon K. notes that this is just a proposal , Daisy R. and Stella C. just want to form a group to raise money with help from family members and supporters ( reaching out ) in our community, 3. Vision for W.C. Charlotte W - Cilla Pryer is no longer Queensland Rep. But she doesnt know her replacement - she is staff. Meeting received letter from Cilla Pryer ( chairperson of the W.C.D.B.R. ) regarding Nation Family Counselling and Consulting - Nation Conferences by [ Brothers of arms leader ] johnny Campbell
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