Struggling with an ID. Bird with no bug. Taken at Wetlands, - TopicsExpress

Struggling with an ID. Bird with no bug. Taken at Wetlands, Hamilton County 7/26. We thought for sure, Eastern Kingbird Juvenille. (no ID book) Got home and noted even the Juv. have the white bar on tail. This guy had no such markings. at all. We watched him preen for a good ten minutes. The phoebe with bug is slighlty smaller than the unknown bird. Unk bird chest was lighter white also. So now, not sure this unk bird is a kingbird or not..could it be juv. phoebe?

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