The conversation by me and by my beloved Loading Older Messages... (6) April 26 Zahid Ashraf 4/26, 12:25am Zahid Ashraf How anwari khala n shaheen. Tell our bedt wishes 4 them also. Hope c u soon in pakistan Jahangir Alam 4/26, 12:27am Jahangir Alam ammma is at his house living with nadeem ? i an at my old house islamia building ? shaheen is also good and happy with her two son and pota potee how is zahid ashraf nadeem father i know him very well Zahid Ashraf 4/26, 12:33am Zahid Ashraf No he is ashraf rahat nadeems father I m waqas father who wed with naila ur sister yasmeens daughter. Ashraf is ill but not serious. Some esthemic problem. Nadeem rahat also on facebook available! April 26 Jahangir Alam 4/26, 5:55pm Jahangir Alam کیا حال ہے جناب April 27 Jahangir Alam 4/27, 4:29pm Jahangir Alam اور سنائیں کیا حال ہے اج چھٹی ہے کیا یا صرف جمہ کو چھٹی ہوتی ہے ۔ Zahid Ashraf 4/27, 4:40pm Zahid Ashraf Me always on leave retired and making all person angry upon my complains but sunday official holiday! Jahangir Alam 4/27, 4:42pm Jahangir Alam چلیں اچھا ہے اب اس عمر میں تو لوگ ارام ہی کرتے ہیں April 28 Jahangir Alam 4/28, 4:40pm Jahangir Alam اسلام ع علیکم Zahid Ashraf 4/28, 5:00pm Zahid Ashraf Wa alaikum asalam All well n hope is all ok to ur side Jahangir Alam 4/28, 5:03pm Jahangir Alam حال تو سب یہاں بھی اچھا ہے Zahid Ashraf 4/28, 5:03pm Zahid Ashraf Karachi hot weather 39 Jahangir Alam 4/28, 5:07pm Jahangir Alam کلکتہ کا 41 ڈگری چل رہا ہے اور گرمی نے بے حال کر رکھا ہے Zahid Ashraf 4/28, 5:11pm Zahid Ashraf So u r much enjoying hot weather Jahangir Alam 4/28, 5:12pm Jahangir Alam Sitting in a a/c room and enjoying Garmeee April 29 Jahangir Alam 4/29, 10:48pm Jahangir Alam جناب کیا حال ہے Zahid Ashraf 4/29, 10:54pm Zahid Ashraf We r v well n hope calcuties r v well Jahangir Alam 4/29, 10:55pm Jahangir Alam اج کی گرمی کیسی ہے ؟ یہاں تو یہی حال ہے Zahid Ashraf 4/29, 10:56pm Zahid Ashraf Today 42 but after sunsets its cool breeze Jahangir Alam 4/29, 10:57pm Jahangir Alam یہا تو گرمی کم نہیں ہوئی May 1 Jahangir Alam 5/1, 3:09pm Jahangir Alam اسلام و علیکم Zahid Ashraf 5/1, 3:17pm Zahid Ashraf Wa alaikum Asslam What about ur election n urn vote to janta party r else Jahangir Alam 5/1, 3:22pm Jahangir Alam nice here and voting for Trinamool our local party Zahid Ashraf 5/1, 3:25pm Zahid Ashraf U do politics t only support someone Jahangir Alam 5/1, 3:28pm Jahangir Alam I just vote ? i dont take interest Zahid Ashraf 5/1, 3:30pm Zahid Ashraf N daily what about business r some other attraction n Jahangir Alam 5/1, 3:31pm Jahangir Alam Yes supplying Goods to local and studying religion Jahangir Alam 5/1, 3:32pm Jahangir Alam وَ الَّذِیۡنَ یُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ بِمَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ اِلَیۡکَ وَ مَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ مِنۡ قَبۡلِکَ ۚ وَ بِالۡاٰخِرَۃِ ہُمۡ یُوۡقِنُوۡنَ ؕ﴿۴﴾ ﴿002:004 ) اور جو کتاب تم پر نازل ہوئی اور جو کتابیں تم سے پہلے نازل ہوئیں سب پر ایمان لاتے اور آخرت کا یقین رکھتے ہیں ۔ تشریح ! جو لوگ رسول کے ذریعہ ملے ہوے تمام اصولوں پر ایمان رکھتے ہیں اور وہ اخرت پر بھی ایمان رکھتے ہیں ۔ پیغام ! انسان دو قسم کے فرض کا پالن کرتا ہے ،ایک اپنے لئے دوسرا سماج کے لئے ۔ رسولوں کے پیغام کو مان کر انسان اپنی پوری زندگی میں سکھ شانتی حاصل (پراپت) کر سکتا ہے اور ساتھ ساتھ ان حدایتوں کے ذریعہ سماج کے لئے جو فرض انسان کے لئے بنتا ہے اسکا پالن کر کے انسان اپنی انے والی نسل کے لئے بھی سکھ شانتی والا سماج چھوڑ سکتے ہیں ۔ رسول سچائی بیان کرتے ہیں اور انسانی تہذیب کی ترقی کا مارگ درشن بھی کرتے ہیں ۔قدرتی اسولوں کے مطابق وقت بدلنے کے ساتھ ساتھ ہر چیز کی شکل بدلتی ہے ۔ جب ایک حالت (اوستھا )سے دوسری (اوستھا) حالت میں کسی بھی (وستو) چیز کی حالت کا روپ انتر(بدلاو ) ہوتا ہے تو انسانی زبان میں اسے مرتیو (موت) کہتے ہیں ۔ٹھیک اسی طرح پرتھوی (زمین) میں مانو سے پہلے دوسرے پرانی تھے ادھارن کے طور پر ڈائینا سورس پھر سمیہ چکر میں مانو سبھیتا کا اغاز(وکاس) ہوا اور اس سمیہ چکر میں مانو کا انت (خاتمہ) بھی ہوگا جسے قیامتیعنی پرہلیہ کہتے ہیں ۔کارن (وجہ)کچھ بھی ہو قیامت اوشیہ(یقینا) ائے گی اور مانو کو اس نیم (اصول )پر ایمان لانے کے لئے کہا گیا ہے ۔اس کا کارن یہ ہے کے انسانوں کی اونچی خواہشات ،لالچ ،موہ مایا اور انسانی دماغ کے سارے برے چرتر پر قابو رکھنا تاکے مانو پاپ کرموں میں لپت(مشغول ) ہوکر نا رہ جائے ۔ اگردنیاں کا ہر انسان قیامت کی گمبھیرتا کو سمجھ جائے تو انسانی سماج میں تشدد اور بھید بھاو پوری طرح سے مٹ جائیگا ۔ موت بر حق ہے اور ان ادرشوں پر اگر انسان ٹھیک طرح سے قائم رہے تو انسانی دماغ میں ضرورت سے زیادہ لالچ اور خواہشات کی چاہت نہیں ہوگی ۔ May 3 Jahangir Alam 5/3, 8:25pm Jahangir Alam کیا حال ہے جناب Zahid Ashraf 5/3, 8:34pm Zahid Ashraf As usual some happy some moody? Jahangir Alam 5/3, 8:35pm Jahangir Alam یہا تو بارش ہورہی ہے جناب Zahid Ashraf 5/3, 8:36pm Zahid Ashraf How ur every family member. Who is planning to come ksrachi r lahore. Some clouds wandering Jahangir Alam 5/3, 8:36pm Jahangir Alam ابھی تو صرف تنویر اسکتا ہے Zahid Ashraf 5/3, 8:37pm Zahid Ashraf When n where. Last time he came n vanished without meeting. Jahangir Alam 5/3, 8:38pm Jahangir Alam اب میں کیا کہہ سکتا ہون ۔ وہ تو اپنی بہنوں سے بھی شاید نہیں ملا تھا Zahid Ashraf 5/3, 8:45pm Zahid Ashraf Khushbu na jaandi phulaan tu phul sukdy sukdy suk jaandy.... rishty hondy milan ty j na milye ty ty ruk jaandy... Jahangir Alam 5/3, 8:53pm Jahangir Alam جدائی کا اژ تنہا محبت پر نہیں ہوتا انہیں میری مجھے انکی کمی محسوس ہوتی ہے Zahid Ashraf 5/3, 9:01pm Zahid Ashraf Well said.... but some dont realise? Jahangir Alam 5/3, 9:28pm Jahangir Alam انکھوں سے دور دل سے دور Zahid Ashraf 5/3, 11:00pm Zahid Ashraf Jo dil mai hoty hain unko dhoondna nahi parta Monday Zahid Ashraf 12/8, 11:28pm Zahid Ashraf Zahid Ashraf 12/8, 11:30pm Zahid Ashraf In all religions sin is symbolic to darkness n ugliness n beauty n light is for truth, is it right r not, if right then which truth u r following, just answer, ok Zahid Ashraf 12/8, 11:30pm Zahid Ashraf Jahangir Alam 12/8, 11:32pm Jahangir Alam Jahangir Alam 12/8, 11:32pm Jahangir Alam Yes it is right Zahid Ashraf 12/8, 11:35pm Zahid Ashraf Then u describe in ur message a text about Satan, saying pap atma, that it is created for light n beauty, if not, check ur text to my wife u sent sometime before, is it ur views r news for us Jahangir Alam 12/8, 11:36pm Jahangir Alam it is for all human beings and not for a particular person Zahid Ashraf 12/8, 11:48pm Zahid Ashraf Cant follow, u mention it in introduction to iblees, he was gin, not an angel, n was honoured due to his ebaadat, and dishonoured due to his inkaar, for not doing sajjda Zahid Ashraf 12/8, 11:48pm Zahid Ashraf Jahangir Alam 12/8, 11:49pm Jahangir Alam you better read Quran than u will know about jin and angel Zahid Ashraf 12/8, 11:56pm Zahid Ashraf Please read it again n confirm it from ur related thinkers , iblees was from gin, upgraded due to his prayers n degraded due to his negation, and if u dis agree I M sorry to say that u r derailed of ur faith n religion, so again begin ur faith from learning it all through to ur choice n reasonable personality. Zahid Ashraf 12/8, 11:57pm Zahid Ashraf Jahangir Alam 12/8, 11:59pm Jahangir Alam u must read it more carefully and judge your thinking whether u r right or not Which of the line of my Quotation u think is wrong Zahid Ashraf 12/9, 12:02am Zahid Ashraf When he denied to bow, said I M from fire n Adam is from soil, do u read translation or Arabic, n if u read Arabic, whose translation u follows Jahangir Alam 12/9, 12:02am Jahangir Alam A new argument arises Zahid Ashraf 12/9, 12:05am Zahid Ashraf No argument, no justification, if u read Arabic whom u follow for meanings, u know Arabic have many many meanings of its words, and is symbolic with the content of the dialogue, but I M sure u will negate it. Jahangir Alam 12/9, 12:08am Jahangir Alam Dont speaks like illiterate movlis go and have sound sleep and think then come for discussion u r too little for this Zahid Ashraf 12/9, 12:11am Zahid Ashraf Yeah, u r philosophy degree holder, u need brain washing, otherwise u listen about ur behaviour from all calcutta Muslims, who knows u much more than me, I was just ur well wisher to explain u that u r misguided, but u dont realise, ok bye bye Jahangir Alam 12/9, 12:12am Jahangir Alam Thanks for reminding me Tuesday Jahangir Alam 12/9, 7:24pm Jahangir Alam Do you believe in existence of Allah and how ? Zahid Ashraf 12/9, 7:43pm Zahid Ashraf For ur kind information if a person does not believe on Allah, his messangers including all rasools and their books, day of judgment, and heaven n hell and does not obey the orders of ALLAH, IS NOT A MUSLIM, HE IS A KAAFIR,OK Jahangir Alam 12/9, 8:06pm Jahangir Alam This is the first time that i have seen truth is being classified and segregated by your germinated faith , i asked you about the existence of Allah not the Question of your personal faith , from where you got this ideology and the order of Allah ?Spin a yarn is an ancient traditional custom of blind faith ,so if u have logical sense then ans my question n prove. Zahid Ashraf 12/9, 8:12pm Zahid Ashraf Me being a Muslim tell u what is faith, eman e mufassal which u did not answered since last week, and Allah s existence read the last three qul and if u cant accept its ur misfortune, ok Jahangir Alam 12/9, 8:29pm Jahangir Alam Strainer dont have rights to point the needle hole ,triviality is the base of sky kissing superstition and false gestures so there are a lots of difference in between truth and blind faith , Truth demands proof but the blind faith based on only some deviated and imaginary thought . The great seen does not demand darkness , only the human imagination made it so . Administrator never mention sin with darkness and truth with holy lights .Eternity super wise and proves the wise of truth of sin and unsin , when truth becomes weak only abusing , big talk and proudness left with muslim . The word Muslim is a Human character or you can say its an adjective ,and who decided and honored you as a Muslim ? Zahid Ashraf 12/9, 9:18pm Zahid Ashraf Who tell u that u r jahangir, ansari is ur mother, gullan was ur father, ur brother tan veer n Nadeem r ur real brother n also ur sisters r ur sisters not step sisters n the property he left how u divided in between u , mom, brothers n sisters, who give u g this right to take his/her property, c do u claim it, or querry or gone to court, u have any proof that ur wife n children r of urs, so there is a truth n blind faith, parallel, sometime u have to prove, sometime to faith, u only cos ultimate books, authors and quote, me by the grace of GOD answering u through my faith n knowledge, Id u have knowledge then spread it beside asking irrelevant questions n abusive, vulgar vocabulary or imposed ideas only damages ur personality n also ur re legion, as u inquire from others, if u have learned tell others what is truth, Almighty GOD n believe otherwise in which society u r living shows n reflects from ur questions n answers, dont laugh on our faith, cry over ur eman, u r damaging day by day, v have nothing to prove u or impose on u and by the grace of books u read n quote shows ur ability n faith, no need to dialogue with us, or sending irrelevant questions, as me said last week, lakum deenokum wa lea deen .... ok bye Jahangir Alam 12/9, 9:58pm Jahangir Alam God bless u and your family ? you have become mad and it is not my duty to cure the mad people thanks God Zahid Ashraf 12/9, 10:02pm Zahid Ashraf Yeah, me mad n prove it to u, but u have crossed every limit of humanity, u forgot ur family background, ur passion, customs, re legion, faith, truth, u know only the books u read nothing else, may God bless u real truth, good bye, finished, ok Jahangir Alam 12/9, 10:09pm Jahangir Alam Those who dont believe the ayats of the Holy Quran , the Quran tells them Kitabeee Kafir so u are in the same category again i will say God bless you Zahid Ashraf 12/9, 10:12pm Zahid Ashraf Ok u r a great thinker n philosopher with due respect u must carry on ur research, Allah hafiz, agr mai kaafir hu tu bhi tumhari kuch nahi lia, ok Jahangir Alam 12/9, 10:16pm Jahangir Alam God bless you and give you guidance and thanks for compliment Wednesday Jahangir Alam 12/10, 6:05pm Jahangir Alam Do u know about D.N.A test ,if i had any doubts about my birth history definitely i would go for D.N .A test , U r not a Kafir U r Mushrik ,Hippocratic nature is called mushrik Today Zahid Ashraf 2:53pm Zahid Ashraf Mr, psychartist, the great thinker of vohra rehman shahi community and religious philosopher, it is requested to grant me about differences in between mushriks, kaafirs n momins, and also about ur fatwa to enlist me as kaffir n now enhanced me as mushrik, because me ask u to tell what is emaan n till u havent explain it....... waiting for ur enriched thoughts n golden words of the diamond time of ur historical life in my hollow present n shine my future explaining ur past experience...... so nice of u.... This text diverted to all my on line friends for record, ok, bye And My Reply to the learned Friend who want to post it to all his FRIENDS So here i am posting my views Quotation From Divine Truth part 2 Written by Siddhartha Chatterjee sura bakar Ayat 136 Say (O Muslims), We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismail (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Yaqub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Yaqub (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam). Explanation:The Commandment of Allāh (the people of enlightenment, love, patience and peace-pleasure must think deeply and embrace (obey) it with heart and mind) is to believe in Oneness of God and do not make any difference in the guidance received from the Chaste-Cherisher through His Messengers (PBUT) and which was revealed upon Abraham, Isaac, Ismail, Jacob (PBUT) and their sons and whatever Moses and Jesus (PBUT) disseminated on the earth from Allāh’s end, and the believing people of enlightenment and patience sent from “all the Prophets and their Cherisher.” Message: By mentioning “all the Prophets and their Cherisher” in this verse, the approval of Allāh’s name present among the human beings is given. By having belief in these names, the controversy of the Chaste-Cherisher’s name among the human beings has been dispelled. Besides, the controversy existing among the people in the name of the Prophets (PBUT) and the books revealed upon them has also been dispelled because all the Prophets (PBUT) have taught the same ideal to the people in different languages and at different places, through which peace was attained. Though Allāh’s ideal is one, people gave it different names and formed each community with each name. Forming community in the name of religion is against the laws of Allāh and this verse completely proves the conception of communalism wrong. The Holy Qur’an is Allāh’s bliss upon every soul and is a complete book even today also. If the Verse No.22 of Sūrah Ambia is brought into study, it says thus: “If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allāh – the Lord of the throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!” In accordance with this verse, there is no other Allāh at all, meaning there is nothing but Allāh i.e. La Ilaha Illallāh. Obviously, it is proved that everything is formed and deformed by atom and nothing is possible in the universe without the will of the Power latent in it. This Power is Omnipresent, but nobody can see it. It can only be felt. If you have faith in Quran Sura Fatiha is a proper and Justified Guidelines for you to become an Imanwala . At first you understand what is iman, hope you will find it in Holy Quran , so i am giving you some reference that will help you to find Iman within yourself . The way to Iman 1.To realize himself and his follows or mistakes. 2.To try to get relieved of the senses and its weakness and also to find out the way of salvation. 3 . To render service to all the creatures. 4.To accepts ones own condition mentally and think it is a gift of God. 5.To set an example before the society of good behavior by not doing any harm to other. 6. To accept the truth and fight against superstition. 7 . Not to take the demand to such a level which may cause harm. 8. To observe all human relationship with a sense of duty. 9. Not to spoil ones own work with an expectation of result 10. Not to divide God and create discriminations among men. 11.To accept and give good education. 12. Not to show biasness in time of making justice. The basis of iman is to show respect to all apostles and by taking the ideas of any book of others lead an honest and discipline life. Whatever be the side of making prayer(be it east or west) or pattern of worship, none of these can be a hindrance for praying to God, the truth is that no apostles or scripture can be neglect able, in human society. Only to suit the time and situations some ideas are abandoned. The pious men or Iman dars never neglects any apostles or scripture. Only a few conspirators try to make differences among the apostles and scripture to create situation for communal riot and to fish in the troubled water. Whatever may be the process of worship, all worship are taken by that single, one God. God is there in each and every atoms of his creation. Some one worships God in his own simple way and some others follow the path dictated by the scriptures. And Please read Sura Bakar Ayat 62/ 63 / 64 / 82 / 112 /153 / 177 ,Sura Nisa Ayat 150 / 151 / 152 Sura Imran Ayat 70 / 80 / 84 / 86 ,Sura Maida Ayat 69 ,Sura Anam Ayat 82 /159 Sura Anqaboot Ayat , 46 / 47 Now Read and Justified the facebook Viewers and FRIENDS OF MY FRIEND
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