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To a certain degree, this is a blockbuster and it puts lots of things in their place. I took some time to translate the article. Kremlin’s Military Plan. Both Donetsk and Lugansk will stay as a part of Ukraine as a guarantee of non-association with NATO. I’ve spoken to Vladimir Lukin; from Putin’s team he’s the most reasonable one. He’s the one who would not sign the peace agreement between Yanukovich and the opposition in February of this year, since he considered it impossible to deliver. So instead of my thoughts, which are familiar to everyone, here is an almost literal retelling of the conversation. There was another person with us, a mutual friend. He’s close to me, and to Lukin. So I think he (Lukin) was saying what he knows and understands quite sincerely. No one in the Kremlin needs neither LNR, DNR, nor Novorossia. In fact, they are so unnecessary that Strelkov and Borodai were removed because at some point they have began to believe in possibility of separation from Ukraine and started moving in the wrong direction. To get Donbass and to lose Ukraine means defeat for the Kremlin. It would have been better to not even start. The rhetoric of those who are running things there now should not mislead anyone. To my question: How are they going to not lose Ukraine, if the intensity of mutual hatred is so high? Lukin said, “Haven’t French reconciled with the British after the 100-year war? And Russians with Germans?. They (Kremlin) think in terms of long stretches of time. In the same vein was the answer to the question of the negative attitude of the entire world community, the consequences for the country and for Putin personally. Marat, the history is not a person’s life, when you have 70 years to do everything. Today, they feel this way, but fifty years later - differently. What constitution? Nobody is going to look at the papers when the history is being made, - said Lukin. I ask: What is the purpose then? Why have they moved in the troops? Why are they rounding up the controlled territory, if not for the future DNR? Lukin, Forget about the DNR and LNR. The challenge is to make Poroshenko understand that he can not win. Never. Consider that the real troops have not even been brought in. If necessary, they will bring in many as needed for Poroshenko to realize that and to sit at the negotiations table with whomever Putin appoints. With people who are completely obedient. These same people will create a parallel political wing of separatists in Kiev today (may have even already created, I’m not sure).” According to Lukin, and Donetsk, Lugansk and will remain a part of Ukraine as a guarantee of non-entry into NATO. The meaning of federalization requirements to a referendum on entry into such international organizations held separately for each region, and if at least one region is against - the country does not enter. (Anton’s notes: this completely corroborates the intercepted conversations between the separatist leaders and their managers at GRU in the beginning of the year. They were told to demand federalization and referendums, and almost nothing else. Which seemed unusual.) He is convinced that the association with EU, is not a hindrance on its own. But in whole, the task of synchronous Europeanization is important. All this talk about “changing the vector” is nonsense. Nowhere except Europe does Russia want to integrate. And Putin is the European number one here. Obama is to be ignored. Can’t bully him too much, otherwise the Republicans might win. We need Hillary. But in Europe, we havent had real quarrel with anyone says Lukin. I’m asking how long will it take, making Poroshenko to negotiate. “We are not in a hurry. He’s the one who needs to hurry. Otherwise the braided girl (Yulia Timoshenko, A.) will eat him up. Its the chair under Poroshenko’s ass which is on fire, not ours. But generally speaking, ideally everything should go back as it was under Yanukovich, only without Yanukovich , - said Lukin. I ask: So people will continue dying?” No, not at this point. Its all because of the false confidence of Ukrainians that they can win, they have actively deployed ATO. Now that everyone understands the obvious - that they cannot win, the heat will subside. They will try present to a maximum degree until the elections. Deceive the electorate. Consider that the most active stage, in the military sense, has passed. After this meeting, I have suddenly realized that we are worrying about the Ukrainians, but we should be worrying about us. It’s obvious to all that the government have violated the constitution by deploying Russian military to Donbass. To all who welcomes this, and to those who condemns this, and most importantly, to the government itself. And this means that any subsequent government can put on trial everyone involved. The evidence of this is plentiful and more is coming. Violation of the Constitution, which leads to deaths of citizens. This also means that Putin will seek to remain in power forever. And the successor will likely be the one who, along with Putin have violated the constitution. Most likely Shoigu. And no electorate activity will make sense. No legally allowed political parties will make sense. And no peaceful means will cause them to give up power. So it turns out that our path (regardless of the happy-end in Ukraine) is either eternal Putin, or blood in the public squares. Oh-ho-ho. Stick, Alex, Marina, Nikita, Nikola, Nikolay, Alisa.
Posted on: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 19:05:05 +0000

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