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You may have seen this post on WoWs wall, by a WoW supporter, comparing WoW and Kristalnact and Dinas rape. It is a highly offensive piece, full of many logical fallacies, distortions, and untruths, and the comment section is perhaps even worse in that sense. I tried commenting in response, wrote two comments, and though the comments of people who responded after I did, their comments went up, my two comments still say Your comment is awaiting moderation. I have no idea if this is intentional, if they are intending to silence my voice, as head of W4W, or because they disagree with what I have to say, or if its just a mistake... But either way, I wanted to share my comments with you here, since they arent available on that post. In response to Shira Pruces comment: This article is about violence- violence against women, violence against Jewish- by Nazis but also by other Jews in the name of God. [...] The problem is the leaders who condone violence and do not denounce violence- and bystanders who do not step in to condemn and stop the violence. [...] At the Kotel the violence and threat used against Women of the Wall is permitted, sponsored by Haredi leadership and permitted by the Rabbi of the Kotel to continue. I wrote: “At the Kotel the violence and threat used against Women of the Wall is permitted, sponsored by Haredi leadership and permitted by the Rabbi of the Kotel to continue. I will not stand idly by.” This is complete slander and untrue. The chareidi leadership has condemned the violence, has said many times that that is not the way to act, and these people are going against the chareidi leadership. The only ones encouraging the violence is WoW egging on protestors (we have Anat Hoffman and Tamar Havillio on video doing exactly that) while W4W tries to get them to stop (and being pretty successful at that, despite WoW’s attempts to rile them up). You continue to push this lie, and repeat it a million times, hoping someone will believe it, and unfortunately many do. And as a general response to the whole article (and when someone compared Satmer people comparing the Israeli army to Nazis), I wrote: Two wrongs don’t make a right. When WoW was compared to Nazis by some people, they flipped out, calling it immoral. When WoW was compared to Palestinians, they flip out, calling such comparisons immoral. But you find no problem comparing those who oppose WoW to Nazis, and Shira Pruce herself compares the Israeli police to Nazi police. Why the double standards? If holocaust comparisons are wrong, they’re wrong all around, not just when they’re directed at you. Holocaust comparisons are hurtful and offensive to people who were hurt in the holocaust. My great grandfather, Mordechai Marcus Bohrer, Rabbi of Gailengen Germany, was rounded up on Kristalnacht, taken to Dachau, and died there. Your comparing police arresting WoW for what they understood as being illegal according to the supreme courts decision is offensive to my great grandfather’s memory and all others who died/suffered because of Kristalnacht. theenergizerrabbi.org/2013/11/14/36659/ -Ronit
Posted on: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:55:17 +0000

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