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some writers, like jack spicer (he comes to mind because im reading his lectures right now) think that good poetry comes from the Outside. as in, he believes that the poet should remove his or her own concerns from the writing process & allow what spicer playfully calls the Martian (a humorous stand-in word that encompassed what he thought can speak through a poet) to produce the poem (he would often wait hours for a line to come to him from the Outside) other writers like the french surrealists (embracing the unfiltered, automatic ~unconscious), yeats (his occult preoccupations in relation to his writing), & john cage (in trying to remove the ego from the process, with chance operations, etc), just name of a few, seem to have comparable approaches. this is obviously metaphysical/hard to grapple with/etc, especially because it seems like a lot of poets find it (justifiably?) important to premeditatively write about certain subjects, issues, experiences, etc (although jack spicer says the Martian can use your personal history, associations, etc as furniture to work with, rearrange, speak through). anyways, i guess my question is this: HOW MUCH PREMEDITATION GOES INTO YOUR PROCESS? SPECIFICALLY, DO YOU MAP OUT A PIECE THEN EXECUTE WHAT YOUVE MAPPED OUT? OR DO YOU OPERATE MORE IMPROVISATIONALLY DURING THE PROCESS? DO YOU EVER FEEL LIKE SOMETHING BEYOND YOUR LIMITED EGO IS SPEAKING THROUGH YOU?
Posted on: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 19:12:07 +0000

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