111113.1515 MICHELLE DAN EL CARR Michelle, here it is what I told you. Conversation started October 28 Gerardo Laksman Hi Haim! When I lived in Buenos Aires I had a Bible written in Spanish. There was, someplace, this expression: JEHOVA NISSIM, translated (if memory does not betray me now!) as Jehova is mi bandera (~ Jehova is my flag) Could you indicate me where I may find that expression, please? Thanks. Gerardo. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HAIM Ill try to locate it sorry Gerardo, the expression as such -- written in Hebrew -- does not elicit any response when I google it : (same result when I switch the order of the words ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gerardo Laksman Thanks Haim. I will check now (I did not do it earlier, but your name impulse me to ask you) the Oxford Study of Bible. If I find something. . then I will tell you. Thanks again. GML ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Haim wait, Im not yet done ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gerardo Laksman I will wait, Haim! GML ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HAIM the correct words are yehova nisi (in Hebrew) its in Exodus 17:15 it speaks of a war and following it Moses builts an alter he calls by that name It does not appear to mean my flag Im trying to figure out the meaning, which seems obscure in Hebrew (each word is understood but combined it is not, indicating that at least some of the words, or one, had a different meaning in that context and time) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gerardo Laksman I found it! In the Oxford I mentioned before says, Jehova is my Banner 17.15 Moses built an altar , and named if The Lord is my Banner. Thanks again! GML HAIM every interpretation I found indicates that it means that an oath was taken. However, its is not clear who is taking the oath, Moses or God or some future king it is a very obscure text (in Hebrew) and thats probably the reason it wasnt actually translated, just transliterated. The same is done in King James bible, relating to the term as a name Gerardo Laksman Yes, in Exodus 17.9 (says the Oxford Bible) appears Joshua, whose sudden appearance here suggests that this story once belonged in another context. HAIM personally, I think it is a way to commemorate an oath, by building an alter that is called Yehova is my sign (instead of flag) a memorial that commemorates but I am not a Bible scholar, so take it for whatever its worth :) but even today, we use flags to mark places a sign or a marker Gerardo Laksman . . . by building an altar . . . The following has nothing to do with what we are talking about but refers specifically to your by building an altar that is called Yehova is my sign . . .a memorial that conmemorates . . . Do you know the inhabitants of North Canada, well up there? There live the Eskimos (a name somehow old-fashioned, replaced, more or less, by the political-correct name of Inuit or Inuit of the Canadian Arctic). The Inuit (among other peoples) build stone landmarks used as a milestone, called inukshuk (in Inuinnaqtun language) or directional marker.Inuksuk is the singular of Inuksuit. Inuksuit differ from some CAIRNS in significance. (see Cairns, googleing the name) (If you have difficulties, let me know and I will send you photos . . .) In modern times cairns are often erected as landmarks. In ancient times they were erected as sepulcral monuments, or used for practical and astronomical uses. They are built for several purposes: They may mark a burial site, and/or to memorialize the dead. They may mark the summit of a mountain Placed at regular intervals, they indicate a path across stony or barren terrain or across glaciers. The inuit erect human shaped cairn, or inuksuit, as milestones or directional markers in the Canadian Arctic. etcetera . . . Enough for today! ^^^^^^ Let me know what you think . . . if you have time! Lehitraot! Gerardo. October 29 HAIM Good morning and thank you Gerardo. It appears than that the mystery is now solved and nisi indeed refers to a marker. Have a good night over there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^oo^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^oo^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Michelle, Well, what do you think of this fellow? GML
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