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Before Yahovah/Christ Created this world He already knew the elect of God and already He purposed and promised to have a people for Himself. 2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; Yes? No? THEN God created the world and all thats in it. He also made Adam/man from the dust of this world. God breathed the Spirit of LIFE into Adam/man that he became a Living soul. Christ is the Way the Truth and the LIFE. So when Yahovah breathed into Adam, I think it right to say that He breathed HIS Spirit into Him …that is He breathed Christ into him! Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. God made Adam UPRIGHT with Christ in him. There is nothing in the wording to suggest otherwise that I see. I see nothing in Scripture that suggests Adam himself transgressed the law of God until he was spiritually slain by another to become spiritually dead. That other was the woman taken out of Adam for a Help meet for him to fill the earth. The Bible says nothing about God breathing LIFE into her, only that she was taken from Adam 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 21 ¶ And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. I think it is probably important to mention here that contrary to many MEN teach, I think the Bible teaches that SIN was already in the world, at least by this stage. What I do not find clear is WHICH part of Adam sin was in already? Or if it matters? The Bible says ….male and female created He them and called THEIR name Adam in the day that He created them… Was sin ONLY in the Woman? That makes good sense to me, which I hope to show as we continue on. So just keep in mind that BOTH the man and the woman are Adam, rather than jumping to the conclusion that Adam has to be the male only. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one (adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Now lets read the following verse keeping the above information in mind: 1Tim 2:13 … For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety… Is it safe to at least suggest by all this, that Adam, A Living soul indwell by the Spirit of Christ DIED spiritually and physically, directly because of the sin of his wife, the female of adam? But because they legally became ONE person, then Eves sin was imputed to her husband (wherein dwelt the spirit of Christ). The Bible DOES state that after Eve transgressed, she GAVE to her husband and he DID eat. One thing I cant bring myself to say, is that Adam knowingly ate thereof …how can I if the Bible does not specifically say that? Does it matter? I dont know for sure …at least not yet anyway! But would it surprise me if she didnt tell him what he was eating? Isnt sin often very treacherous? Does not sin (misery) loves company? I can quite easily see someone realizing that they have done something SO awful, then attempt to drag someone else to share the shame with them…and so that they are not alone in their trial/punishment? Somehow in the sinners mind, it makes it seem less despicable if Im not the ONLY one! (Im hoping nobody asks me how I know THAT one ) BUT even if that is not the case, there is also this possibility. When the woman ate, then they both INSTANTLY died spiritually, being One flesh. Now Adam being dead is dead TO righteousness and is blind to spiritual obedience and faith so that he now WOULD sinfully eat….where he would NOT have before that! ??!! So now I have Adam/the Spirit of Christ spiritually defiled and under sentence of death because he was married to the woman because they became ONE flesh/ ONE adam the day God gave the woman to Adam for to wife. THIS is where/when I am suggesting that Christ was SLAIN in the foundation of the world! It ALSO makes spiritual sense out of the troubling verse I pasted in above from 1Tim 2 …Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety… Because the woman becomes spiritually, not simply Eve the mother of us all, but ALL , but more specifically the elect lady talked about in 2John 1. The woman …the ones I pointed out in the beginning of this piece that God knew BEFORE the world began! Im still working to sort this out. I know I will ONLY be able to do that if God approves of effort, more specifically I have to think He would be the one spurring me on empowering me to this according to His perfect will. I also have to think that if the above is on the right track, it is yet still on a more surface type understanding as opposed to much deeper level of understanding that could come later?…. Lord willing
Posted on: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 07:56:51 +0000

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