Illegal Aliens, Non-Citizens Caught Voting In Florida In Vast Numbers youtube/watch?v=2hjmKBfrycQ 1 FlagUnlikeShare southernloff 3 Hours Ago IMHO, many of those felons who have served their sentences should be able to retain certain basic civil rights, the first of these being the right to vote. To group all felony violators together is wrong, and should be avoided. In this question, specific requirements and guidelines must be established, which could possibly be included as conditions of sentencing. As I said, just IMHO. 2 FlagLikeReplyShare bpin 2 Hours Ago Again, just much easier to obey the law. You dont have to worry about all this stuff if you do. FlagLikeReplyShare TigersCountry 2 Hours Ago Yea! The United States Of America was built on crime...it was stolen...now we want a civilize nation from this..not gonna happen! FlagLikeShare bpin 4 Hours Ago What about not commiting a felony in the first place? Seems to be the most practical choice. I doubt felons are thinking too much about their voting rights when they are commiting a felony. FlagLikeReplyShare Anderson Romagnano 3 Hours Ago You know I actually believe in that Christianity crap and always have. I know what Christ would counsel to that statement. Or maybe its just I spend a lot of time at the cemetery and so I think about this differently than other people. Were all children of God and deserve to be treated as such. I used to be a judgmental person. But that was before I experienced how awful awful can be. I know Christ would not judge someone or approve of discrimination. Maybe it would be a better world if we could show compassion rather than judgment, mercy rather than harshness, kindness rather than gruffness. And Im by no means perfect. But I can at least realize the way it should be. FlagLikeReplyShare bpin 2 Hours Ago Believe you are trying to use perfect to compensate for a felony. No one is perfect but there is a heck of a tremendous difference inperfect and commiting a crime as serious as a felony. I am not religious, but I do see where folks that follow the law just seem to have better success than those that choose not to. Following the law just seems the best way to go. FlagLikeShare TigersCountry 2 Hours Ago again The United States Of America was built on crime...it was stolen...now we want a civilize nation from this..not gonna happen! FlagLikeReplyShare darryl0173 4 Hours Ago Ms. Roberts, your story is touching. Almost as similar as mine. But I hate to break it to you, but that Alabama State Pardon will NEVER wipe your record clean. You will forever have a felony conviction on your record. There is no provision in the Code of Alabama that says your pardon expunges your criminal record. Every time a background check is ran on you, it will always show up. And then even if you present your pardon to your potential employer, it still raises red flags with them. Most times, they wont hire you. Has happen plenty times to me. Every time that there has been some expungement bill introduced in the State Legislature, the Republican leadership votes it down and kills it. Sen. Bedford (D-Russellville) has SB108 pending in the House, but that bill is so butchered, that it only allows if you were arrested, but not convicted or had your charge dismissed, then you can petitioned the sentencing court for a discretionary expungement. Nothing in the bill mentions convictions, let alone pardoned convictions. And arrests dont even show up on background checks, only convictions do. I was fortunate enough to have my probation officer expedite my pardon application for me. I was release from probation in 2002, after serving time on a split-sentence from 1996 to 1999. At first, the BOPP granted me a partial pardon in 2004. Then I reapplied in 2006, and in 2007, was granted a full pardon with gun rights restoration. I had to send my original pardon to FBI CJIS for them...more 2 FlagLikeReplyShare willieben46 4 Hours Ago Why does the legislature want to be so hard on people trying to better themselves when they have been less than lily white themselves. Not to mention some of them have served time themselves. FlagLikeReplyShare bpin 4 Hours Ago If you have proof of political wrongdoing you are required to disclose it or be a party to it. Obviously you have some strong evidence. You should turn it in immediately to avoid prosecution. FlagLikeShare willieben46 3 Hours Ago bpin. Where have you been? Have you read a newspaper or watched a newscast in the last 20 years? I said nothing about current members. I spoke of the legislature in a collective sense and in the past tense. You must think you are scaring me. Go read your comic books. FlagLikeReplyShare str8shot 6 Hours Ago If people dont like to lose their rights, like voting, then dont commit crimes! Its really simple. I dont believe a felon should be allowed to vote as they have demonstrated a severe lack in good judgment and responsibility. The real issue with Holder is the fact that so many felons are black. IF the majority were Hispanic or White, Holder would have no issues at all with the current laws. I say let the voters decide whether felons should be given the right to vote again...not a judge or justice appointee.... FlagLikeReplyShare Anderson Romagnano 5 Hours Ago So are you willing to say when they work they should be exempt from taxes? Otherwise youre supporting taxation without representation....the same thing we seceded from England because of. 1 FlagLikeReplyShare shinnyrims 5 Hours Ago He is not saying that the felon agrees to that when they commit a crime. Tell the felon to reimburse the state for the free shelter, food and any training they received ,if you want to talk about taxes. 2 FlagLikeReplyShare Chinook Pilot 7 Hours Ago I suspect that a large number of felons who have paid the price for their crimes are better citizens than many in the legislature and the current occupant of the governors office. 3 FlagLikeReplyShare str8shot 6 Hours Ago I suspect that a large number of felons are repeat offenders who are still serving time or running from the law. Very few felons actually change and live a law abiding life. FlagLikeReplyShare Anderson Romagnano 5 Hours Ago And how much of that has to do with the legal discrimination preventing them from a number of jobs and employers who wont give them a chance? FlagLikeShare Phisherman 4 Hours Ago Employers are free to hire whom they please. 1 FlagLikeShare Charles Dover 8 Hours Ago And, yet, the President, a former pot smoker, could fix this with a blanket pardon of all pot smokers that have no violent (or, other) offenses on their record. Talk to him, Mr. Holder......The President, as you well know, was given the power by the congress in the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 to, with a stroke of the pen, take marijuana off of schedule one and fix this. Never mind that we have known since 2007 that it will cure cancer (proven on both a molecular and DNA level). FlagLikeReplyShare ElizaChotard3 7 Hours Ago The president can not pardon state offenders. 1 FlagLikeReplyShare rogerclegg 10 Hours Ago Maybe the system of felon re-enfranchisement in Alabama can be made more efficient; I dont know. But I will say this: Eric Holders speech was wrongheaded. If you aren’t willing to follow the law yourself, then you can’t demand a role in making the law for everyone else, which is what you do when you vote. The right to vote can be restored to felons, but it should be done carefully, on a case-by-case basis after a person has shown that he or she has really turned over a new leaf, NOT automatically on the day someone walks out of prison. After all, the unfortunate truth is that most people who walk out of prison will be walking back in. Read more about this issue on our website here [ ceousa.org/voting/voting-news/felon-vot... ] and our congressional testimony here: [ judiciary.house.gov/_files/hearings/pdf/Cle... ] Answering the Challenges to Felon Disenfranchisement ceousa.org/voting/voting-news/felon-vot... Because you dont have a right to make the laws if you arent willing to follow them yourself. To participate in self-government, you must be willing to accept the rule of law. 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