Lexrides gives new meaning to arrogant and ignorant hipsters. Lexrides members - just a friendly reminder that this group is - and always has been - a place to connect and share ideas and info about bike-related events and topics within Lexington. While we certainly welcome discussions and links pertaining to cycling advocacy, safety, and responsible riding, please do not abuse this page by spamming it with multiple links and posts, and please do not use this group page as a personal platform for any agenda, cycling-related or otherwise. If we, as admins, see that this activity continues, and if it creates an unwelcome environment on this page, we will take action to remove you. Participate, be courteous, and be kind. We want people to enjoy their time spent here. Thanks. Cherokee L Schill 50 mins What can we do about this? Realistically, how can we make cycling better in Kentucky. We need to start thinking outside the box. Ben F. Shared publicly - 4:07 PM... See More Like • • Share Greg Capillo man, so great that posts are not only off topic but subtly racist and misogynist too! thanks! 33 mins • Like • 1 Cherokee L Schill So you disagree that we should prioritize laws which protect cyclists? 30 mins • Like Greg Capillo i think you have used this group as your own personal cycling agenda and everyones pretty annoyed by it 29 mins • Like • 2 Ali Blair Yeah, you stepped over the line with comparing our plight to victims of rape and racism. 27 mins • Edited • Like • 2 Cherokee L Schill You believe that education is an agenda? 28 mins • Like • 1 Cherokee L Schill Ali Blair, This was written by a cycling advocate. Not by me. 27 mins • Like Cherokee L Schill I thought their voice had merit and their ideas were worth considering. 26 mins • Like Ali Blair Thats fine but nobody is going to take a comment like this seriously with rape and civil rights in there. Its ridiculous and insensitive. You chose to repost it as it is. 25 mins • Like • 5 Cherokee L Schill Ali Blair this happened to a cyclist and we need to be on our guard that it doesnt happen to a cyclist here. velonewspetitor/.../notes-scrum-thing-love... Notes From the Scrum: The thing you love can kill you - VeloNews Matthew Beaudins terrifying story of being struck by a... VELONEWS.COMPETITOR.COM 22 mins • Like • Remove Preview Cherokee L Schill The guy was struck by an overtaking motorist and as he lay bleeding on the ground he was written a ticket and told that it was his fault for not being far enough to the right. 21 mins • Like Cherokee L Schill That is exactly what rape culture is all about. Blaming the victim. 21 mins • Like Cherokee L Schill Do we want Lexington to be the best city to cycle in? 20 mins • Like Cherokee L Schill If the answer is yes then we seriously look at education and laws. 20 mins • Like Greg Capillo Ali Blair sorry, i thought it was pretty clear i wasnt responding to you but to the person who posts insane spam 20 mins • Like Cherokee L Schill There isnt anything wrong with wanting infrastructure but not at the expense of everything else. 20 mins • Like Greg Capillo nothing like that has even come close to happening here. 19 mins • Like Ali Blair Wow. Alright, enough. I understand theres a serious problem with how cyclists are sometimes treated by drivers and by the law but you arent doing anything useful here but pissing off the people in Lexington that care about this by polluting this forum with a constant barrage of these articles. Perhaps you can start your own forum specifically to address these matters. You have no idea what rape culture is, if you just think thats a tagline for blaming the victim you need some education and sensitivity training. 16 mins • Like • 3 Matthew Noe That is exactly what rape culture is all about. Blaming the victim. Wait, what? 15 mins • Like Ali Blair Cherokee, we would all love Lexington to be the best place to cycle but this isnt moving us toward that goal. Using the if you dont like what I post youre not a real cyclist/dont care about our rights is a bullshit argument. What exactly are you trying to do here? Do you think one more post will finally move us to take up arms and march on the courthouse and demand these changes? Would that work? You arent galvanizing us youre making us turn against you. 4 mins • Like Terri King God, at what point does this become spamming a group and therefore grounds for removal from the group? What can we do about this? Realistically, how can we make cycling better in Kentucky. We need to start thinking outside the box. Ben F. Shared publicly - 4:07 PM +cherokee schill shared this a few days ago and I have a comment on it as well. Key factors in my advocacy of cycling are realism and practicality. I love as much as the next guy to sit down with a whiskey and toss around ideas, review idealistic plans for multi-mode intersections and imagine what segregated infrastructure might bring in terms of more bikes on the road. But thats not real. Not the way I see it. The way I see it, we have a set of laws in place that in general grant cyclists equal access to the road. Conceding that we ought to build compulsory-use bike lanes or tear up roads for segregated infrastructure or put in bicycle stop lights is conceding those laws are optional and nothing to improve the penetration of cycling can happen in the short term. Because these projects are then put into the budgeting and political processes, subject to decisions made by people with no real interest in the outcome and no real constituency to serve. And while these projects languish and get chipped away by stubborn anti-cycling politicians, drivers continue to enjoy current and new infrastructure built specifically for them. Additionally, a sociological complication to the matter of separate-but-equal transport infrastructure is the notion that it reinforces in the minds of certain types that you got yours, we got ours. That because a bike lane exists somewhere, all cyclists must use it. This attitude is easily demagogued, and if you are not certain you believe me, check the comments section of any Facebook or news site post about cyclists or cycling. You will see something along the lines of WE SPENT ALL THAT MNEY ON BIKE LANES AND THEY DONT EVAN USE THME!!!!1!1 right near the top. We need solutions now, and as it happens, the most immediate solutions are also the cheapest. We need clarity on the laws of cycling in the roads from politicians and executives. We need enforcement of those laws by police and authorities. We need the judicial and courts systems to stop treating cyclist victims like rape victims that were asking for it. We need Strict Liability. We need state drivers education programs, curricula and handbooks to stress how to handle slow-moving traffic in general and bicycles in particular. This sort of 25 year desert the US and its like-nations have to cross before we have a culture that respects bicycles in society has to start with understanding and upholding existing law. Like compound interest, the better things get, the better they become. As it was with the American Civil Rights movement, nothing will happen until powerful people with nothing to gain take up the cause. Like • • Share Jonathan Stofer likes this. View 19 more comments Matthew Noe That is exactly what rape culture is all about. Blaming the victim. Wait, what? 30 mins • Like • 1 Ali Blair Cherokee, we would all love Lexington to be the best place to cycle but this isnt moving us toward that goal. Using the if you dont like what I post youre not a real cyclist/dont care about our rights is a bullshit argument. What exactly are you trying to do here? Do you think one more post will finally move us to take up arms and march on the courthouse and demand these changes? Would that work? You arent galvanizing us youre making us turn against you. 18 mins • Like • 1 Terri King God, at what point does this become spamming a group and therefore grounds for removal from the group? 14 mins • Like • 1 Cherokee L Schill Ali Blair, What is the goal? What do you believe would move us towards that goal? 11 mins • Like Cherokee L Schill Terri, Im pretty certain God has nothing to do with this. Please stay on topic. 8 mins • Like Cherokee L Schill I dont know if anyone remembers the lady who was seriously injured in the bike lane on Winchester road. I hope we have not forgotten about her. I know I havent. One of the first things people wanted to know is Was she in the bike lane? There was an effort to blame her for the collision, by really ignorant people. Not any of them cyclists that I am aware of. Mostly just the ignorant motorists who as Luke Box pointed out assume you are going to stay in the bike lane no matter what. We have a problem with bike lanes not being built to NACTO guidelines and laws demanding cyclists use those bike lanes. We have self entitled motorists who scream at you to get in the bike lane whenever you try to keep yourself safe and avoid debri or any other road hazard. Ali Blair, Do you really believe that this has never happened in Lexington or would it be closer to the truth that you are unaware of these things that happen? Instead of misplacing your hate on someone who is trying to help making cycling safer for everyone, why dont you instead educate yourself on how cycling can truly be bade equitable and safer for all. Unable to post comment. Try Again Cherokee L Schill Write a comment...
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