The Differences between me and a JW A JW will go to secondary Sources. They largely go to the WT or somewhere like IRC or AiG and make a one stop shop when they cut and paste. I go to primary sources - I have written the NICH ( Naturally Increasing Complexity Hypothesis) largely myself, and others have contributed to the project. I gathered links to prove each point I made from various sites. I have read books, but cannot cut and paste paper pages on screen. Therefore I got to several sites and quote direct. A JW or Creationist source will Quote mine or borrow an Quote mine from someone else - We read Darwin saying that he acknowledges that the eye seems almost impossible to have arisen in stages - Yes, Darwin did say that. However, the original quote goes on to say but2, and Darwin then lays out the method by which the seemingly impossible problem was overcome. If I quote Darwin , I quote in the entirety. A JW or Creationist is not going to the Source - Darwin Himself, but is usually borrowing an incomplete and edited quote in order to misrepresent the author . I quote the original work. A lot of original work is to be found in its entirety on Talk Origins, but T.O is not my only source of info. I do not parrot, I understand the basic principles. Evolution is usually applied in scientific circles to Darwins Theory of Evolution. It makes not reference to the Origins of Life itself, or the Origins of the Material Universe. . That is why its called On the Origin of Species - the clue is in the Title. However, the Creationist often falls back on Well, where did Life Come from ? Where did the Earth come from ? What made the Galaxy? What made the Quarks? The answer, to me, is that Quarks are Self Existing - eternal and unformed. Those simple particles, acting under the Emergent Laws of Physics and Chemistry, formed everything else we see around us. I posted up a large excerpt from the NICH yesterday and will try to get the whole thing on a document. The NICH exposes many errors in Creationism. It shows where evolution has been observed, shows transitional forms and ought to explain them. Any questions arising will be used to improve upon it. Here is the remainder of the work. Evolution - the origin of all species from a common ancestor. The classification system - invented by Linnaeus, a Christian who lived before Darwin. youtube/watch?v=5MXTBGcyNuc&list=PL126AFB53A6F002CC&index=1 What Evolution is and is not. check this out before you sound off on Evolution ... youtube/watch?v=XdddbYILel0 Not a vid but a huge, great website with lots of links, ifo and items evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01 Creation: The Origins Of Life A talk based on the book of the same title by Dr Adam Rutherford. Over 1 hr in length, but well worth the look if you have time. youtube/watch?v=iH4NTnkDKoA New information and new genes and pseudogenes nature/scitable/topicpage/origins-of-new-genes-and-pseudogenes-835 Transitional forms Timothy Bruce Ide Oh, look what I found: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org This is a tentative list of transitional fossils (fossil remains of a creature t...See more Yesterday at 08:56 via mobile · Unlike · 1 Timothy Bruce Ide Oh, and this: transitionalfossils/ (A few) transitional fossils transitionalfossils Timothy Bruce Ide Oh, there seems to be quite a lot: evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/lines_03 Transitional forms List of transitional forms found in Talk Origins talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC200.html A link on Tiktaalik evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/060501_tiktaalik Observed evolutionary changes that have been recorded phylointelligence/observed.html#newinformation Kent Hovind redefines Kinds and says that Alaskan Rabbits wont interbreed with Floridan ones. 1 becomes 2 becomes 4 kinds that wont interbreed. youtube/watch?v=l-ilMYc5xdQ Radiometric dating - what it is and how it works A video on Dating the Earth and how we do it https://youtube/watch?v=w5369-OobM4 A scientific paper on radiometric dating asa3.org/ASA/resources/wiens.html The same link is endorsed by OEC christians, as seen on this Christian site. oldearth.org/radio-christian.htm The Mt St Helens eruption scam - what really happened. noanswersingenesis.org.au/mt_st_helens_dacite_kh.htm Evolution and the second law of thermodynamics A common misconception is that evolution breaks the 2nd law which states The entropy of a closed system cannot decrease. The pertinent word being *closed* and the earth is NOT a closed system, the sun in constantly radiating energy to it. A good explanation can be found starting here: talkorigins.org/faqs/thermo/probability.html talkorigins.org/faqs/thermo/creationism.htmlFor a greater understanding (warning math involved) web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node37.html Deep Time Old Earth or a Young one? TEC claims refuted and proof of Deep Time> lpl.arizona.edu/~matthewt/yeclaimsbeta.html#civ The Universe https://facebomc.maricopa.edu/~thoqh49081/StudentPapers/canaanite.htmlok/groups/430001197074619/file Social and Cultural Evolution Satan, in the Bible, also goes through a period of development as the Hebrew theology that he is part of alters over time. 15 mins. youtube/watch?v=j-gbOnWj6Mw Lucifer - how he went from being a Myth of the Near East to becoming a character in the KJV en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer Another link - 50 mins youtube/watch?v=g8XQbqZUkms Documentary Hypothesis - examining claim that Moses wrote or complied the Torah en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis cs.umd.edu/~mvz/bible/doc-hyp.pdf ( link supplied by Martin Willis) God did not make Man - Mankind Created ALL gods youtube/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc My thanks to Martin Willis for all of these links. The Concept of Monotheism developed. It did not arise fully formed , but evolved over time from earlier beliefs ( links below by Martin Willis ) mc.maricopa.edu/~thoqh49081/StudentPapers/canaanite.html atkinslightquest/Documents/Religion/Hebrew-Myths/Worship-of-Yahweh-as-a-Bull.htm Monotheism developed over time - transcript of lecture, tape from You tube and many more links to follow. oyc.yale.edu/transcript/944/rlst-145 youtube/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg
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