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Things to ponder about eternal punishmet forever and ever ADAM AND EVE WERE NEVER WARNED BY GOD OF ENDLESS PUNISHMENT But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall SURELY DIE (Gen 2:17) The wages for eating the forbidden fruit was you shall surely die And: In the sweat of your face shall you eat bread, till you return unto the ground [not be turned into a terrorists hellhole of endless torture in some pagan hell]: for out of it [the ground] were you taken; for dust you are, and unto dust shall you return (Gen 3:19) Death began immediately Notice a better translation of Gen 2:17: …to die shall you BE DYING (Concordant Old Testament) Their life was but a slow death until they returned to the dust of the ground God said that their judgment for sinning was to be RETURNED to the ground from whence they came They didn’t come from some terrorists hellhole of torture in fire, so how could they return to such a place when God plainly stated that they would RETURN unto the ground? They came from the earth and they returned to that earth God cursed the serpent, and God cursed the ground, but nowhere did God curse Adam and Eve God pointed out the different judgments against Adam and Eve, such as multiplied childbearing pains, sorrow in gathering food all the days of his life, thorns, thistles, and sweat, but no mention of punishment in death or after death If Adam and Eve were to have a far greater punishment (trillions and trillions of times greater) at death or in death or after death, Why did not God warn them of such an horrible destiny? Why would God tell them one thing and then pull a trick on them and do something totally different when the time came? Listen to what God said to Ezekiel: When I say unto the wicked, You shall surely die [hey, isn’t that exactly what God did say to Adam?] and you give him not warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand (Ezek 3:18) Are we to believe that God held Ezekiel to a higher standard of morality than God holds for HIMSELF? God told Ezekiel that He would require Ezekiel’s blood if he did not warn the wicked so they could be saved from death Do we then turn around and accuse God of a lower standard in which God Himself has utterly failed to warn the human race of a destiny that is trillions of times worse than mere death? God would hold Ezekiel responsible for the death of just one wicked person, whereas God Himself feels no responsibility for failing to warn the entire human race of a fate trillions of times more severe? CAIN WAS NEVER WARNED BY GOD OF ENDLESS PUNISHMENT Notice very carefully God’s conversation with Cain: But unto Cain and to his offering He [God] had not respect And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell And the Lord said unto Cain, Why are you wroth? And why is your countenance fallen? If you do well, shall you not be accepted? And if you do not well, SIN lies at the door And unto you shall be his desire, and you shall rule over him (Gen4:5-7) God warned Cain that if he did not do well, that sin would be at his door But did God say endless torment and punishment would be at his door? No And Cain talked with Abel, his brother; and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and slew him And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel your brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother’s keeper? And He said, What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood cries unto Me from the ground And now are you cursed from the earth which has opened her mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand: When you till the ground it shall not henceforth yield unto you her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shall you be in the earth (Verses 8-12) Did God threaten Cain with endless punishment in some subterranean hellhole of torture in fire? No But notice Cain’s reply? And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear Behold, you have driven me out this day from the face of the earth, and from Your face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth: and it shall come to pass, that every one [any one] that finds me shall slay me (Verse 13-14) What? My punishment is greater than I can bear? If Cain thought being a fugitive and vagabond and having poor crops was greater than he could bear, what pray tell would he have thought had God told him that he would be punished for all eternity in some hellish pit of fire? Did God fail to tell Cain about the endless torture because He was afraid it would be too much for Cain to psychologically handle? Did God fail to inform Cain of his coming endless punishment because He was afraid it might discourage him, or some other unfathomable fiendish foolishness? Search all we may, we won’t find this pagan doctrine of Christendom in the Scriptures But hold on there’s more We are not finished with this account of Cain yet And the Lord said unto him, Therefore, whosoever slays Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him (Verse 15) Is Cains punishment for Murder-the Fires of Hell Let’s all use our brains together on this one: Cain is a murderer It doesn’t get much worse than that Not only a murderer, but a murderer of his OWN BROTHER But God tells us that if someone should find and slay Cain the murderer, then that person would have vengeance taken on him seven times greater? SEVEN TIMES GREATER than burning in some fabled hell for all eternity? Seven times greater than that? Are they kidding? Are they out of their cotton-pickin’ minds? Can any human mind conceive of a punishment seven times GREATER than being tortured in fire for all eternity? Here then would be the orthodox logic of this whole scenario: Kill your brother, and receive a certain punishment: but kill the murderer of his brother, and receive seven TIMES greater punishment There is nothing greater, or seven TIMES greater than an eternity of torture in fire Does someone wish to stop and seriously argue this point? Then how is it possible that any who would kill Cain, would have a punishment seven times greater than Cain, if his punishment is to be tortured in real fire endlessly? Cain’s punishment will not be an eternity of torture in fire Cain died, just as his parents (Adam and Eve) died But there is no punishment in death Cain’s punishment was here on this earth while Cain was still alive, not after And likewise, anyone who found and killed Cain would have punishment on this earth while they were still alive, seven times greater, than that of Cain
Posted on: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 23:47:16 +0000

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