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What I think is interesting here is the use of language: a debate is a ‘pantomime’, links to sources are not helpful, and the facts are ‘views’. Mr Cox holds different ‘views’: he ‘thinks’ things are otherwise. I suppose to be a tory, you have to deny reality like this every day. Must get tiring. Me>Conservative Parliamentary candidate Graham Cox. Hello Mr Cox, and thanks for your prompt and considered reply, a good deal more than I got in four years from the incumbent. I don’t think anyone disagree that the NHS needs reform to meet new demands and changing lives: what I think most people would disagree with is the way it has been attempted by the Coalition. In particular, I think most people would object to a reform which is: 1. The opposite of what your voters voters for (‘No more costly top-down re-organisations...’) To enact the opposite of what your voters voted for is a mockery of democracy, makes a liar of your leader, and brings about precisely the disaffection and apathy the political class claim to deplore. (They’re all liars...’ Well in this case, that is the sad and exact truth.) newstatesman/politics/2013/11/pre-election-pledges-tories-are-trying-wipe-internet 2. Adding costs: markets only ever add health costs. The BMA did a study which showed precisely this, but you only need to compare health costs in USA (c£9,500 per head) with UK (c4,500 per head), with UK delivering far superior outcomes. You need to explain why you think this analysis is wrong: why do you believe markets improve efficiency in the NHS? What is your evidence? What you’ve given me so far is theory. chpi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/At-what-cost-paying-the-price-for-the-market-in-the-English-NHS-by-Calum-Paton.pdf 3. Giving public money to your party’s backers. The evidence is here. This is called ‘corruption’. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-reform-leaves-tory-backers-105302 4. Contrary to the wishes of just about the entire medical profession. telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9116604/BMA-calls-for-active-stand-against-health-bill.html 5. Not working. independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-faces-huge-bill-over-private-providers-botched-eye-operations-9670101.html I’d be most interested to hear why you think HASC is the right solution, given the evidence against it. You must, presumably, have some pretty robust evidence of your own up your sleeve? Looking forward to seeing it, Yours sincerely, Simon Maginn. Conservative Parliamentary candidate Graham Cox>Me Simon Im not sure getting into a pantomime type exchange of emails and links to different articles supporting our particular views would really be that helpful or constructive. I happen to think that diversity of provision and provider - as long as the service is free at the point of demand - is the best way of ensuring quality of care and value for money. As I said I am committed to the NHS but I think it needs to innovate and use a variety of providers in order to continue to improve and meet the huge challenges it faces. I respect your view and think its probably best we agree to differ. Regards Graham
Posted on: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:50:18 +0000

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