Banned from Canadian Students for Liberty! Why/How? I objected to a post: Keep calm and kill the Jews. Well, you can read it: I saved it before I was banned. I assume its been deleted, but maybe not. _____________________________________________ Tyler MacNeill Theres a lot of that on both sides. This isnt something unexpected. Bruce Cohen Excuse me? Could you please tell me when Jewish people have tweeted about killing other ethnicities? Ever? Tyler MacNeill Obscure fringe supporters of both sides have used similar rhetoric. Obviously Hamas itself carries those feelings whereas the Israeli government largely does not, but this African Youth Congress wing is obscure and mostly irrelevant. Bruce Cohen Im sorry, but there are no fringe supporters of the Israeli side. And there are no Israeli calls for death of any ethnic group. Tyler, your statement is factually incorrect and you cant come up with a single example to substantiate it. David Clement there were Israeli citizens watching the bombing of Gaza on hilltop celebrating the strikes. Thats not the same, I know, but it is certainly more than questionable Bruce Cohen I dont think its questionable in the least. These terrorists have been kidnapping your children, bombing your pizza restaurants, blowing up halls full of worshipers, killing cops AND rocketing your homes, schools and businesses for decades....See More David Clement Celebrating the bombing of one of the most densely populated areas on earth, knowing that innocent civilians will die, is deplorable and repugnant. Putting a bullet through a child to get to your enemy is nothing worth celebrating Bruce Cohen Its not one of the most densely populated places on earth. If youre going to pontificate, perhaps you ought to learn some facts. Instead of repeating (false) talking points you got from agitprop sources....See More David Clement Regardless of whether or not it is or isnt one of the most dense places, celebrating the death of innocent people, is certainly repugnant. Its funny how your response didnt mention anything about celebrating the death of innocent people, which is certainly happening from atop of those hills Bruce Cohen If it doesnt matter, why did you bring it up? And Israel isnt celebrating the death of innocents, they are celebrating hitting Hamas back....See More David Clement I work for the Canada research chair in Human rights, who is jewish. Im certainly not a jew hater boy. Thanks for keeping it civil though. In regards to deaths, I welcome your evidence, because everything Ive seen suggests otherwise. Bruce Cohen You walk and quack like a JHB. And the title of your job is quite suspicious. As well, why are you having me do your thinking and research?...See More David Clement Sigh, ill post everything that I have after the weekend. FYI, Im a major contributor on a book being written on the subject, so I am more than aware of what the facts are. My mistake was the density comment, which I acknowledge Bruce Cohen Mister David Clement has asked me to retract calling him a JHB. I will do so at this time, per his request and remain a skeptic. David Clement People can have differing opinions without being racist etc. Please treat myself, and others, with respect moving forward Bruce Cohen Back to the topic... Lets find examples of Jews/Israelis actually behaving this way. Because it cant be done, in case youre wondering why I ask. Tyler Lively theguardian/.../israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing independent.co.uk/.../but-what-does-tinder... Israelis gather on hillsides to watch and cheer as military drops bombs on Gaza theguardian Harriet Sherwood: People drink, snack and pose for selfies against a background of explosions as Palestinian death toll mounts in ongoing offensive Bruce Cohen Thats not cheering for the killing of innocents. Thats cheering for your side finally fighting back....See More Tyler Lively Exhibit A: people celebrating death. I dont care if its in order to stop death, celebrating death is a terrible thing. Exhibit B: Israeli people in Tinder making fun of an AMERICAN because she works in Gaza. If they are that mean to her, I would love to see their opinion of Palestinian people themselves....See More Bruce Cohen Exhibits not in evidence. Declaring an exhibit does not make it one. David Clement So people watching thought that only Hamas members were being killed? Its pretty obvious that innocent people are being killed by those strikes (regardless of whether or not they are justified) Tyler Lively Verbally abusing someone for working in Gaza does not mean that those people think poorly of Palestinians? Why are you in this group? Bruce Cohen Not true. Look up the statistics. The deaths in Gaza have been almost entirely fighting age men....See More Tyler Lively You can count on it being a military target, but they hide their bombs in schools and hospitals I thought? So are those military targets then? Bruce Cohen Excuse me, this is a Liberty group. Which is more libertarian, Israel or Gaza?...See More Bruce Cohen Hamas has hit more civilian targets in Gaza than Israel has. Far more. Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect anything. Tyler Lively Hamas is an evil organisation run by evil people. Stop equivocating what I am saying, it just makes your case weaker and weaker... Bruce Cohen Remember where this started: Keep calm and kill the Jews....See More Tyler Lively If you dont want to think about the issue critically thats fine. But, here in our CANADIAN.... STUDENTS (and let me emphasize both, because you are neither as far as I can tell) for Liberty group, we are critical thinkers and we do not appreciate you coming in here and verbally abusing us. Tyler Lively Can you quote where I equated the two? Bruce Cohen Tyler, arent you verbally and falsely abusing Israel (and Jews?) Bruce Cohen Tyler, your whole case is one of moral equivalence. It would be easier to find where you havent equated them. Tyler Lively Then could you find that? David Clement Ok thats enough Bruce Cohen PS I am of Canadian Heritage. My father graduated from University of Toronto, class of 1959. My parents were married in the Holy Blossom Synagogue in Toronto. Almost my entire known family lives somewhere in Canada. I am a student and work with students and have run student programs for Libertarians in the USA. My student bona fides speak for themselves. Back to where it started: Keep calm and kill the Jews. And somehow me debunking falsehoods and objecting to hate speech has morphed into me being mean etc... Pretty funny. Unable to post comment. Try Again
Posted on: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 03:35:01 +0000
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