Jump to content Sign In Create Account . View New Content ShiaChatMembersForumsChat2CalendarMore .ShiaChat → Main Forums → Imam Mahdi (af) Forum . - - - Name of 313 People in Imam Mehdis (AS) Army Started by Joon_Alia , Sep 18 2005 03:40 PM PrevPage 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 Next.Please log in to reply85 replies to this topic . #26 ~RuQaYaH~ ~RuQaYaH~ Alhamdulilah ala niamat al Islam Advanced Members 4,831 posts Location:Australia Interests:Islam, politics, history, soccer, philosophy, law Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:24 AM Hmm interesting. A few questions: 1. Do we have any surviving accessible accounts of the names of ALL 313 people....and if so, do u know where we can find it (preferably in English)? 2. How strong are these hadiths? (ie. are they considered almost 100% verified or are they weaker)......if different books vary in the names then it may be because different books quote different hadiths in which there are differences in the names and thus the reliability of the hadiths may be in question. 3. Will any of the 313 be females? I know that there will be females who are members of the army but Im not sure about the 313. 4. What portion of the 313 are actually named and what portion are given a title such as Abu Maryam etc (ie. are most of them names or titles) Thanks alot sis! wasalaam .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #27 SpIzo SpIzo Member Advanced Members 8,419 posts Posted 08 November 2006 - 10:07 AM I found this list while going through this thread: shiachat....533;entry423314 Saint Anger said The list itself is not complete.. Only 222 members out of 313... 1) Ahmad (Armenia) 2) Hussain (Armenia) 3) Hassan (Alexandria) 4) Mohsin (Alexandria) 5) Shabeel (Alexandria) 6) Sheebaan (Alexandria) 7) Yunus (Isfahan) 8) Ali (Afrinij or Afrinj) 9) Ahmad ( ditto) 10) Mashar or Matsar ( Wama) 11) Alwaan ( Anbaar) 12) Abdur Rahman (Antaakya) 13) Aamir (Awaal) 14) Jaafar (Awaal) 15) Naseer (Awaal) 16) Bakeer (Awaal) 17) Lees or Leet (Awaal) 18) Muhammed (Aws) 19) Naseer (Bals) 20) Minbah (Buddu Aqeel) 21) Zabith (Buddu Aqeel) 22) Ghurban (Buddu Aqeel) 23) Amru (Buddu Agheer) 24) Nehraash (Buddu wa Shebaan) 25) Jabir (Buddu Qaseen) 26) Matar (Buddu Klaab) 27) Ajlaan (Buddu Misr) 28) Draaj (Buddu Misr) 29) Yusuf (Biraa) 30) Dawud (Biraa) 31) Abdullah (Biraa) 32) Ali (Basra) 33) Mahaarib (Basra) 34) Hasan (Balach) 35) Abdul Waris (Balist) 36) Sadiq (Balqaa) 37) Bashr (Bait Al Muqaddas) 38) Dawud (Bait Al Muqaddas) 39) Imran (Bait Al Muqaddas) 40) Saad (Bizaa) 41) Saeed (Bizaa) 42) Ahmad (Tustar) 43) Halaal (Tustar) 44) Muhammed (Taflees) 45) Rayaan (Tameem) 46) Haroon (Saqab) 47) Abdullah (Jabal Al-Kalaam) 48) Ubayd Allah (Jabal Al-Kalaam) 49) Kadhim (Jabal Al-Kalaam) 50) Yahya (Jabal Al-Kalaam) 51) Ibrahim (Jeddah) 52) Yahya (Jaara) 53) Ahmad (Jaara) 54) Ibrahim (Habshah) 55) Issa (Habshah) 56) Muhammed (Habshah) 57) Hamdaan (Habshah) 58) Katheer (Habash) 59) Sabeeh (Halab) 60) Muhammed (Halab) 61) Muhammed (Hillah) 62) Ali (Hillah) 63) Jafar (Hamas) 64) Malik (Hameer) 65) Naasir (Hameer) 66) Taqayyah (Khurshaan) 67) Masnoon (Khurshaan) 68) Aziz (Khat) 69) Mubarak (Khat) 70) Muhammed (Khallaat) 71) Jafar (Khallaat) 72) Mahrooz (Khawinj) 73) Nuh (Khawinj) 74) Dawud (Damascus) 75) Abdul Rahman (Damascus) 76) Abdul Ghafoor (Durq) 77) Shuaib (Dyaar) 78) Hussain (Dhaab) 79) Taleeq (Ramla) 80) Musa (Ramla) 81) Jafar (Ruhaat) 82) Mujmaa (Rih) 83) Abdul Mutlib (Zuraa) 84) Ahmad (Zuraa) 85) Abdullah (Zuraa) 86) Muhammed (Zayd) 87) Hasan (Zayd) 88) Fahd (Zayd) 89) Saleeb (Saadah) 90) Saadan (Saadah) 91) Shabeeb (Saadah) 92) Muhammed (Sijaarah) 93) Najia (Sarkhas) 94) Hafas (Sarkhas) 95) Maraayee (Sur Man Rayee) 96) Aamir (Sur Man Rayee) 97) Ahmad (Saadawaa) 98) Yahya (Saadawaa) 99) Falaah (Saadawaa) 100) Haroon (Salmaas) 101) Ali (Samarqand) 102) Mujahid (Samarqand) 103) Maqdaad (Sin) 104) Hud (Sin) 105) Abaan (Sanjaar) 106) Ali (Sanjaar) 107) Abdur Rahman (Sindh) 108) Jafar (Saham) 109) Sheebaan ( Suus) 110) Abdul Wahhab ( Suus) 111) Khalid (Seeraaf) 112) Malik (Seeraaf) 113) Hawkal (Seeraaf) 114) Ibrahim (Seeraaf) 115) Nuh (Seelan or Ceylon) 116) Hasan (Seelan or Ceylon) 117) Jafar (Seelan or Ceylon) 118) Ameer or Umair (Shaubak) 119) Abdullah (Shiraaz) 120) Salih (Shiraaz) 121) Jafar (Shiraaz) 122) Ibrahim (Shiraaz) 123) Abdul Wahhab (Shizar) 124) Jibrail (Sanaa) 125) Hamzaa (Sanaa) 126) Yahyaa (Sanaa) 127) Sameeh (Sanaa) 128) Zayd (Ziiaa) 129) Ali (Ziiaa) 130) Aalim (Zeef) 131) Suhail (Zeef) 132) Ali (Taif) 133) Sabaa (Taif) 134) Zakriya (Taif) 135) Hilaal or Halaal (Al Yaman Taif) 136) Saalih (Taalqaan) 137) Jafar (Taalqaan) 138) Yahyaa (Taalqaan) 139) Hud (Taalqaan) 140) Falih (Taalqaan) 141) Dawud (Taalqaan) 142) Jameel (Taalqaan) 143) Fazeel (Taalqaan) 144) Issa (Taalqaan) 145) Jabir (Taalqaan) 146) Khalid (Taalqaan) 147) Alwaan (Taalqaan) 148) Abdullah (Taalqaan) 149) Ayyub (Taalqaan) 150) Malaaab (Taalqaan) 151) Umar (Taalqaan) 152) Abdul Aziz (Taalqaan) 153) Luqman (Taalqaan) 154) Saad (Taalqaan) 155) Qabshaa (Taalqaan) 156) Muhajir (Taalqaan) 157) Abdun (Taalqaan) 158) Abdul Rahman (Taalqaan) 159) Ali (Taalqaan) 160) Faleeh (Tabria) 161) Hamzaa ( Abadaaan) 162) Sheebaan ( Abadaaan) 163) Qasim ( Abadaaan) 164) Jafar ( Abadaaan) 165) Umar ( Abadaaan) 166) Aamir ( Abadaaan) 167) Abdul Muhiman ( Abadaaan) 168) Abdul Waris ( Abadaaan) 169) Muhammed ( Abadaaan) 170) Ahmad ( Abadaaan) 171) Aun (Adan) 172) Musaa (Adan) 173) Farj (Arafah) 174) Muhammed (Asqalaan) 175) Yusuf (Asqalaan) 176) Umar (Asqalaan) 177) Fahd (Asqalaan) 178) Haroon (Asqalaan) 179) Tayyab (Askar Mukarram) 180) Maymoon (Askar Mukarram) 181) Ahmad (Aqar) 182) Marwaan (Akaa) 183) Saad (Umaara) 184) Maalik (Amman) 185) Muhammed (Amman) 186) Saalih (Amman) 187) Dawuud (Amman) 188) Hawaashib (Amman) 189) Kosh (Amman) 190) Yunus (Amman) 191) Ahmad (Naseeban) 192) Ali (Naseeban) 193) Asal (Nubaa) 194) Fazil (Nubaa) 195) Ali (Nisaabuur) 196) Muhajir (Nisaabuur) 197) Musaa (Hajar) 198) Abbas (Hajar) 199) Abdul Quddus (Hujar) 200) Nahruush (Hiraat) 201) Ali (Hamdaan) 202) Salih (Hamdaan) 203) Abdul Salaam (Haweeneen) 204) Faaris (Haweeneen) 205) Kleeb (Haweeneen) 206) Aqeel (Wasit) 207) Zaafir (Yamaamah) 208) Jameel (Yamaamah) 209) JAbeer (Yaman) 210) Haweesh (Yaman) 211) Malik (Yaman) 212) Kaab (Yaman) 213) Ahmad (Yaman) 214) Sheeban (Yaman) 215) Aamir (Yaman) 216) Ammar (Yaman) 217) Fahad (Yaman) 218) Aasim (Yaman) 219) Hajar (Yaman) 220) Kulsuum (Yaman) 221) Jaabir (Yaman) 222) Muhammed (Yaman) 223) 224) 225) 226) 227) 228) 229) 230) 231) 232) 233) 234) 235) 236) 237) 238) 239) 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312) 313) Dont know how authentic this is. Edited by SpIzo, 08 November 2006 - 10:10 AM. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #28 loveahlulbayt4ever loveahlulbayt4ever Member Advanced Members 2,390 posts Location:Florida/Boston, USA Posted 08 November 2006 - 10:45 AM A while bak I saw something related to this wen I find it I will post it .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #29 A follower A follower -Unregistered- Advanced Members 4,443 posts Location:Scotland, UK Posted 08 November 2006 - 11:26 AM ~RuQaYaH~, on Nov 8 2006, 09:24 AM, said: 1. Do we have any surviving accessible accounts of the names of ALL 313 people....and if so, do u know where we can find it (preferably in English)? As far as I remember reading the only account I found of the above question is what Sister Spizo has posted. Other than that I have found nothing in regards to this. Quote 2. How strong are these hadiths? (ie. are they considered almost 100% verified or are they weaker)......if different books vary in the names then it may be because different books quote different hadiths in which there are differences in the names and thus the reliability of the hadiths may be in question. There are number traditions about the 313 leaders of the army of the Imam [ajtf]. All our Imams and even the Prophet talked about them. If you want more detail then inshallah I will post some stuff later from Kitab ul Irshad and The book of Occultation both have extensive accounts of the 313 companions. Quote 3. Will any of the 313 be females? I know that there will be females who are members of the army but Im not sure about the 313. 40 members out of the 313 will be females. It is mentioned in a few hadiths. Quote 4. What portion of the 313 are actually named and what portion are given a title such as Abu Maryam etc (ie. are most of them names or titles) I remember reading in a thread, the same as Sister Spizo posted that there are a few titles given to the 313 as well as the army of the Imam [ajtf] Imam Ali once said that the army of anger is that which will come at the end of Zaman- Jaysh al-Ghadab (Army of Anger) Also they are titled Ahl Al-Ikhlaas Quote Another very major quality is sincerity - the 313 disciples of Imam Mahdi (atf) are called ahl al-ikhlas or the most sincere people. Link: shiachat....h...29646&st=75 Hope that helps WSalaams .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #30 ~RuQaYaH~ ~RuQaYaH~ Alhamdulilah ala niamat al Islam Advanced Members 4,831 posts Location:Australia Interests:Islam, politics, history, soccer, philosophy, law Posted 09 November 2006 - 04:44 AM SpIzo, on Nov 9 2006, 02:07 AM, said: I found this list while going through this thread: shiachat....533;entry423314 Dont know how authentic this is. Thanks sis. It was funny how a couple of them were abdul wahabs lol. I have no idea where most of these places are.....Im guessing most of these places are now called something else (eg: phoenicia is modern day lebanon). If anyone knows where some of these places are, plz lemme know. I gathered the easy ones, but where are theses places: Afrinj Ditto (what the....? lol) Wama Anbar Antakya Awal (Bahrain?) Aws Bals (Is this referring to the Romanian town?) The bhuddu group Biraa and the rest of the unobvious ones...........in particular, wheres taalqaan? Is that Afghanistan? Also, are any of these places present day Australia by any chance? Oh and if anyone knows about the authenticness of this list, plz post. Anyway, let the husband searching begin! A follower, on Nov 9 2006, 03:26 AM, said: As far as I remember reading the only account I found of the above question is what Sister Spizo has posted. Other than that I have found nothing in regards to this. Apparently its in some Arabic book. Anyway, if you find out more plz post. Quote There are number traditions about the 313 leaders of the army of the Imam [ajtf]. All our Imams and even the Prophet talked about them. If you want more detail then inshallah I will post some stuff later from Kitab ul Irshad and The book of Occultation both have extensive accounts of the 313 companions. Yep, I wasnt referring to hadiths about there being 313 leaders, but rather the hadiths which name the 313. What kind of extensive accounts are you referring to? Their characters and/or actual demographic information about them? Quote 40 members out of the 313 will be females. It is mentioned in a few hadiths. Hmm interesting. Would you happen to have any of these hadiths, Id love to have a read. Thanks for your help wasalaam Edited by ~RuQaYaH~, 09 November 2006 - 02:15 PM. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #31 ~RuQaYaH~ ~RuQaYaH~ Alhamdulilah ala niamat al Islam Advanced Members 4,831 posts Location:Australia Interests:Islam, politics, history, soccer, philosophy, law Posted 09 November 2006 - 05:33 AM loveahlulbayt4ever, on Nov 9 2006, 02:45 AM, said: A while bak I saw something related to this wen I find it I will post it Thanks sis, plz do wasalaam .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #32 Serenity` Serenity` The veil is not a limit. Advanced Members 3,406 posts Posted 09 November 2006 - 06:16 AM Sis Ruqayah, here are two hadeeths that I have come across that mention women in them: Women in the Imams army: Quote Imam Jaafar ibne Muhammad as-Sadqiq has said: There will be thirteen women alongside al-Qaim (when he makes his advent). Al-Mufaddhal (the narrator of this tradition) asked the Imam: And what will their role be? The Imam replied: They will treat the injured and look after the sick just as the (women did) at the time of the Messenger of Allah (during the battles). - Reference: Ithbatul Hudat, Volume 7, Page 150 The first ranked soldiers of the Imam: Quote Imam Muhammad ibne Ali al-Baqir said: ... Indeed he (al-Mahdi) will come and I swear by Allah that there will be three hundred and ten and some off number of men with him and among them there will be fifty women who will all gather together in Makkah (to help him)... - Reference: Biharul Anwar, Volume 52, Page 223; Tasfir of al-Ayyashi .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #33 maqnouteh maqnouteh Member Advanced Members 403 posts Posted 09 November 2006 - 08:43 AM Salaam: Thanksfor asking the question sis..have been able to learn so much more Jazakumullah kheyr all! Dont have much time right now but will try to answer afew of the questions.. How strong are these hadiths? (ie. are they considered almost 100% verified or are they weaker)......if different books vary in the names then it may be because different books quote different hadiths in which there are differences in the names and thus the reliability of the hadiths may be in question. The normal Hadith tests are done..some books are more eliable than others so we would definitly hold such ahadith as greater refernces Quote What portion of the 313 are actually named and what portion are given a title such as Abu Maryam etc (ie. are most of them names or titles) Most of them are names very few titles and descriptive names Here are the current names of some of the places you mentioned: Afrinj- Europe ( at least thats wat the book said!) Antakya- Turkey I think the modern name for the other places is also mentioned but will have to go n search it up ok? MAy we all be amongst the staunch followers of Imam ATF Ya Ilahi! .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #34 rahat rahat Member Advanced Members 3,964 posts Location:Shiaville Posted 09 November 2006 - 07:34 PM Salaam, There are mutiple narrations of the names of the 313. Heres one: from the book : Imam al-Mahdi Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã by Ayatullah Sayyed Sadrul-Ddin Sadr link to this book : al-shia.c...a.s.)/index.htm excerpt from the book : Asbagh-ibn-Nubatah says: Amir-ul-Mumineen Ali (A.S.) recited a sermon and mentioned therein something about the emergence of Mahdi and his helpers. Abu Khalid Halabi or Kabuli said: O Ali, inform us something about his qualities. He replied: From the view-point of character and creation, he resembles the Holy Prophet (S.A.W.A.) the most. Should I inform you about his helpers? They said: Yes, O Amir-ul- Mumineen. He replied: I heard the Messenger of Allah (S.A.W.A.) saying: The first of them would be from Basra and the last of them from Yamamah. Thereafter Hazrat began to count Mahdis companions. People were crying and Ali (A.S.) was saying: Two persons from Basra, one person from Ahwaz, one person from Mina, one person from Shushtar, one person from Duraq, four persons namely Ali, Ahmad, Abdullah and Jafar from Baastan, two persons by the names of Muhammad and Hassan from Amman, two persons - Shaddad and Shadid from Siraf, three persons - Hafas, Yaqub and Ali from Shiraz, four persons Musa, Ali, Abdullah and Ghalafan from Esfahan, one person by the name of Yahya from Abdah, one person by the name of Dawoud from Maraj or Araj, one person by the name of Abdullah from Karaj, one person by the name of Qadeem from Burujerd, one person by the name of Abdur-Razzak from Nahawand, two persons - Abdullah and Abdus-Samad from Dainul, three persons - Jafar, Ishaaq and Musa from Hamadan, two persons - whose names are similar to the names of Holy Prophets Ahl-e-bayt - from Qum, one person by the name of Darid and five others whose names are similar to the names of Ashab-e-Kahf from Khurasan, one person from Aamol, one person from Jorjan, one person from Herat, one person from Balkh, one person from Qarah, one person from Aane, one person from Damghan, one person from Sarkhas, three persons from Saiyar, one person from Savah, one person from Samarkand, twenty-four persons from Thaleqan - They are the same ones about whom the Holy Prophet (S.A.W.A.) said: In Khurasan, treasures can be found which are not gold or silver. But they are men whom Allah and His Prophet will gather together - two persons from Qazvin, one person from Fars, one person from Abhar, one person from Birjan, one person from Shakh, one person from Sareeh, one person from Ardabil, one person from Morad, one person from T adammor, one person from Armani, three persons from Maragha, one person from Khuee, one person from Salmas, one person from Badlees, one person from Nasur, one person from Barkari, one person from Sarkhis, one person from Munarjerd, one person from Qaliqala, three persons from Waseth, ten persons from Baghdad, four persons from Kufa, one person from Qadasieh, one person from Surah, one person from Serat, one person from Nael, one person from Saidah, one person from Jurjan, one person from Qusur, one person from Anbaar, one person from Akbarah, one person from Hananeh, one person from Tabuk, one person from Jaamedah, three persons from Abadan, six persons from Hadisah Musel, one person from Mosul, one person from Maqlasaya, one person from Naseebeen, one person from Arwan, one person from Faraqeen, one person from Aamed, one person from Ras-ul-Ain, one person from Reqqah, one person from Haran, one person from Bales, one person from Qabeeh, one person from Tartus, one person from Qasr, one person from Adneh, one person from Hamari, one person from Arar, one prson ferom Qures, one person from Anthakia, three persons from Halab, two persons from Hamas, four persons from Damascus, one person from Syria, one person from Qaswan, one person from Qaimut, one person from Sur, one person from Karaj, one person from Azrah, one person from Aamer, one person from Dakar, two persons from Baitul-Muqaddas, one person from Ramalleh, one person from Bales, two persons from Acca, one person from Arafat, one person from Asqalan, one person from Gazah, four persons from Fasath, one person from Qaramis, one p erson from Damyath, one person from Mahaleh, one person from Askanderiyeh, one person from Barqah, one person from Tanjah, one person from Afranjah, one person from Qirwan, five persons from Sus Aqsa, two persons from Qirus, three persons from Jamim, one person from Qus, one person from Aden, one person from Alali, ten persons from Medina, four persons from Mecca, one person from Taif, one person from Dair, one person from Shirwan, one person from Zubaid, ten persons from Saru, one person from Ahsah, one person from Qateef, one person from Hajar and one person from Yamameh. Ali (A.S.) said: The Holy Prophet (S.A.W.A.) counted them to me until they became 313 in number, the same as the companions of Badr. Allah will gather them from the East and West and place them near the Holy Kaaba by the wink of an eye. When the people of Mecca will witness this, they will say: Sufyani has gathered us around himself. After coming in contact with the people of Mecca they will see a group gathered around the Kaaba and the darkness and gloom will have departed from them and the dawn of hope ascended and they will tell each other. Salvation (perhaps meaning to say that we have found salvation). The noble people will watch and their rulers we go in deep thought. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #35 peaceonearth peaceonearth Member Unregistered 1,827 posts Posted 09 November 2006 - 09:35 PM Rawshni, on Sep 19 2005, 01:10 AM, said: ^ . . . well, my being a non muslim so far excludes me, doesnt it? Peace no it does not. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #36 maqnouteh maqnouteh Member Advanced Members 403 posts Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:46 AM In fact there is anon muslim name i saw: Antonio..ok i assumed its non Muslim but maybe hes a revert..Allah Ya3lam salaam: by the way, am not sure about Antaqya i cant verify it yet but i think i confused it with Allepo which is in Turkey.. Taleqan is in Iran but many boundaries are not the same as were known during that time. Here are afew of the less obvious ones: Qiryat- villages between Mashhad and Qandahar. Qaleeqa- kurdistan well, thats all i cud get for now Fiamanillah Allahumma salli ala Muhammad wa aali Muhammad wa ajjil Farajahum .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #37 habib e najjaar habib e najjaar ~Alamulhudaa~ Unregistered 2,384 posts Location:Sijn al Mumin Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:58 AM Quote Anyway, let the husband searching begin! good idea, really good, jus make sure we are among the 50 women so that we dont have to worry about where they are .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #38 sara alfatlawy sara alfatlawy Basic Members 1 posts Posted 10 November 2006 - 06:31 PM SpIzo, on Nov 8 2006, 11:07 AM, said: I found this list while going through this thread: shiachat....533;entry423314 Dont know how authentic this is. salam alkum do u know what the list is. im just wondering is it about like the profits and stuff plzz explain in more details ok thanks masalama Edited by sara alfatlawy, 10 November 2006 - 06:40 PM. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #39 SpIzo SpIzo Member Advanced Members 8,419 posts Posted 18 November 2006 - 08:01 AM sara alfatlawy, on Nov 11 2006, 05:01 AM, said: salam alkum do u know what the list is. im just wondering is it about like the profits and stuff plzz explain in more details ok thanks masalama I apologize for replying late. Though Im not sure if I have understood your question. Can you elaborate? .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #40 sk00n sk00n Member Advanced Members 3,475 posts Posted 18 November 2006 - 10:55 AM Quote 40 members out of the 313 will be females. It is mentioned in a few hadiths. really? i remember there being 50 ... .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #41 Member1 Member1 Member Advanced Members 2,444 posts Posted 20 November 2006 - 10:14 AM Al-Mukhtar, on Sep 19 2005, 04:50 AM, said: i cant remember the name of the mosque but it happened like 3 or 4 years ago my email is [email protected] or you can IM me on AIM at TIBA31 prolly jamkaran in qom .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #42 ~RuQaYaH~ ~RuQaYaH~ Alhamdulilah ala niamat al Islam Advanced Members 4,831 posts Location:Australia Interests:Islam, politics, history, soccer, philosophy, law Posted 20 November 2006 - 10:22 AM Thank you all for the info youve provided and keep the modern day names of the locations coming people . I havent yet finished reading through/examining the whole hadith that youve posted rahat but inshaAllah soon. wasalaam .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #43 Odin Odin Member Advanced Members 174 posts Posted 20 November 2006 - 02:21 PM I am iranian, but i would like to keep my mind open at all times, allowing me not to be blind unlike the other 95 % of the population. I have two questions that cannot be answered with 100 % garentee, however my aim is to try and open your minds up... Question 1) Where will Imam Zaman rise? (most people believe that it is in middle eastern countries, but the true possibilities are endless) Question 2) Who will be in his army? (most people have given lists of muslim names, again this is a contridiction if imam Zaman is meant to be the imam of the PEOPLE and not only restricted to the muslims) those that want to hasten imam zamans appearance are wrong to do so (e.g my countries crazy leader), for everthing has its own time and space; events have to come and go for other events to come by, but in their own time (this must not be altered). Do not think that because you are a muslim you are superior from other people who are not, for the imam will judge you by the purity of your heart (intentions), and not your religion. Religion is there to help you gain and maintain a purere heart, it is not a passive mark of greatness, some people achieve this via religion, some do it without, they should both be seen and accepted equally. wasaalam .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #44 Serenity` Serenity` The veil is not a limit. Advanced Members 3,406 posts Posted 21 November 2006 - 06:13 AM Salaam Odin, Odin, on Nov 21 2006, 06:21 AM, said: Question 1) Where will Imam Zaman rise? (most people believe that it is in middle eastern countries, but the true possibilities are endless) Imam Jaafar Al-Sadiq is reported to have said that, Al-Qaim will enter Makkah and will appear by the side of the house (the Kaabah). Along side him will be his companions, 313 in number. Quote Question 2) Who will be in his army? (most people have given lists of muslim names, again this is a contridiction if imam Zaman is meant to be the imam of the PEOPLE and not only restricted to the muslims) Imam Mahdi will be the saviour of humanity, or as you say the Imam of the people. When Muslims only mention Muslim names, I think it has to do with how a believer is described in the Holy Quran. Even though non-Muslim names may not be mentioned, they would not be deprived of Imam Mahdi. Everyone will be invited to the truth, everyone will be given the chance to know Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì through him, and to accept it. However, everyone also has the chance now to search for the truth, before his advent - It is part of our innate nature to do so. And this would be the ultimate decider, we can call it part of the filtration process to seek out the very best amongst us, those whom will serve and stand near our Imam at the time of re-appearance. And due to Allahs infinite Mercy, no-one is deprived of such a blessing and achievement, not before the return of our Imam and not after. About your last question, in regards to feeling superior to non-Muslims based on religion - We are all Gods creatures, the only distinction between individuals before Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, is based on their level of piety. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #45 Sayed_Amir Sayed_Amir Member Advanced Members 172 posts Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:54 PM JIN^BHAI, on Sep 19 2005, 07:56 AM, said: salam No i have an arabic version sis.. and not the whole book. i photocopied these pages from a visiting alim and gave him the book back. And i dont know if it is available online or not. you can search by the author i have given as i dont know the name of the book in english if it was ever published. Wassalam JIN^BHAI If you have those books or pages where is reading the names in arabic, could you scan and post them here? I will be very thankful if you can. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #46 warner warner Do you see the Sufyani/Dajjal in me? Banned 252 posts Posted 23 November 2006 - 07:36 AM -ZeinaB-, on Nov 21 2006, 04:13 PM, said: Salaam Odin, Imam Jaafar Al-Sadiq is reported to have said that, Al-Qaim will enter Makkah and will appear by the side of the house (the Kaabah). Along side him will be his companions, 313 in number. However, everyone also has the chance now to search for the truth, before his advent - It is part of our innate nature to do so. And this would be the ultimate decider, we can call it part of the filtration process to seek out the very best amongst us, those whom will serve and stand near our Imam at the time of re-appearance. And due to Allahs infinite Mercy, no-one is deprived of such a blessing and achievement, not before the return of our Imam and not after. About your last question, in regards to feeling superior to non-Muslims based on religion - We are all Gods creatures, the only distinction between individuals before Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, is based on their level of piety. What if one of Imam Mahdis 313 is so advanced in his piety and what not that he pretends to be the most eviliest man on earth and yet he has a heart that only Allah knows. For him life is like this. If he becomes good, he is so good that even the most piest of men stand around and ask him HOW to attain spiritual piety. And if HE decides to go evil, he is so bad that even Iblees would say that hes beaten me in his evilness. Thats right, worser than Marilyn Manson For him life is just an act, he can be extremely good or extremely evil. What do you think? Will he be amongst the chosen few? P.S. It doesnt matter what you think. He knows who i am and i know who he is. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #47 Odin Odin Member Advanced Members 174 posts Posted 23 November 2006 - 07:43 AM i like ur ideology, you are right in every way. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #48 ~RuQaYaH~ ~RuQaYaH~ Alhamdulilah ala niamat al Islam Advanced Members 4,831 posts Location:Australia Interests:Islam, politics, history, soccer, philosophy, law Posted 23 November 2006 - 08:25 AM Odin - question: Were there any non-Muslims in Imam Hussains army? and warner - a truly pious person would never pretend to be the evilest man on earth wasalaam .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #49 Serenity` Serenity` The veil is not a limit. Advanced Members 3,406 posts Posted 23 November 2006 - 01:42 PM warner, on Nov 23 2006, 11:36 PM, said: What if one of Imam Mahdis 313 is so advanced in his piety and what not that he pretends to be the most eviliest man on earth and yet he has a heart that only Allah knows. For him life is like this. If he becomes good, he is so good that even the most piest of men stand around and ask him HOW to attain spiritual piety. And if HE decides to go evil, he is so bad that even Iblees would say that hes beaten me in his evilness. Thats right, worser than Marilyn Manson For him life is just an act, he can be extremely good or extremely evil. What do you think? Will he be amongst the chosen few? P.S. It doesnt matter what you think. He knows who i am and i know who he is. I believe that our level of piety will manifest in the way we conduct ourselves. Someone who has a high level of piety, will not pretend to be an evil person, as this action will contradict his true beliefs as a Muslim - As well as, faith and works going hand in hand. Also, we have hadeeths that mention the characteristics of those who will be in the Imams army, so that gives us an indictation and also guides us in the right direction. And being evil, well, thats one of the abhorred traits mentioned in hadeeths and the Holy Quran. We submit to the word of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì and cannot go near the prohibited, in this case taking on the role of an evil person, consequently harming ourselves and those around us and causing the displeasure of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. Our actions reflect our true beliefs. .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #50 ya_ali_786 ya_ali_786 LIVE LIKE ALI(AS), DIE LIKE HUSSIAN(AS) Basic Members 41 posts Posted 23 November 2006 - 02:11 PM can these name change??? .Back to top .. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PrevPage 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 Next.Back to Imam Mahdi (af) Forum . . 1 user(s) are reading this topic 0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users .Reply to quoted posts Clear ShiaChat→ Main Forums→ Imam Mahdi (af) ForumPrivacy Policy Rules & Guidelines · .. Community Calendar Change Theme IP.Board IP.Board Mobile Help Community Forum Software by IP.Board Licensed to: ShiaChat/.net/.org . Sign In Use Facebook Need an account? Register now! 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