Meshaal of Hamas: People ask us will we recognize the state of Israel, and will we affirm that it’s legitimately a Jewish state. He said, No, we won’t do that. But we have never said that we will not serve in a government that has public support for that position, that we will not serve in such a government. as recounted by Rabbi Henry Siegman -- KHALED MESHAAL: [translated] No. I said I do not want to live with a state of occupiers. NERMEEN SHAIKH: That was Khaled Meshaal, the leader of Hamas, speaking to Charlie Rose. Henry Siegman, could you respond to that, and specifically the claim made by Israelis repeatedly that they can’t negotiate with a political organization that refuses the state of Israel’s right to exist in its present form? RABBI HENRY SIEGMAN: Yes. It so happens that in both international custom and international law, political parties, like Hamas, are not required or even ever asked to recognize states, whether they recognize a state or not. The question is whether the government of which they are a part and that makes policy and executes policy, whether that government is prepared to recognize other states. And this is true in the case of Israel, as well, the government of Israel, any government. I, incidentally, discussed this with Meshaal, not once, but several times, face to face, and asked him whether he would be part of a government that recognizes the state of Israel, and he says—and he said, Yes, provided—they had a proviso—he said, provided that the Palestinian public approves that policy. And he repeated to me the fact that—he said, You’re absolutely right. He says, People ask us will we recognize the state of Israel, and will we affirm that it’s legitimately a Jewish state. He said, No, we won’t do that. But we have never said that we will not serve in a government that has public support for that position, that we will not serve in such a government. But a more important point to be made here—and this is why these distinctions are so dishonest—the state of Israel does not recognize a Palestinian state, which is to say there are parties in Netanyahu’s government—very important parties, not marginal parties—including his own, the Likud, that to this day has an official platform that does not recognize the right of Palestinians to have a state anywhere in Palestine. And, of course, you have Naftali Bennett’s party, the HaBayit HaYehudi, which says this openly, that there will never be a state, a Palestinian state, anywhere in Palestine. Why hasn’t our government or anyone said, Like Hamas, if you have parties like that in your government, you are not a peace partner, and you are a terrorist group, if in fact you use violence to implement your policy, as Hamas does? So the hypocrisy in the discussion that is taking place publicly is just mind-boggling. democracynow.org/2014/7/30/henry_siegman_leading_voice_of_us
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