OKEY, I AM NOT A MARAKWET, BUT WHEN I POST FACTS ABOUT EMBOBUT FOREST, SOME PEOPLE THINK IT IS A PROPAGANDA. LOOK AT HOW THE MARAKWETS THEMSELVES ARE NOT EVEN AGREEING ON FB. THIS IS THE GROUP THEY REFER THEMSELVES AS ELITES; Kibe Sowe hehe kusoma tuu ni fun October 28 at 9:17pm via mobile · Like Robert Chelanga Kachepsar October 28 at 9:18pm via mobile · Like · 1 Kanda Kiplagat Stanley Kwani do you think ONLY ENDO Mission wil be beneficiaries???You are too selective!!!knt. October 28 at 9:18pm via mobile · Like · 1 Karen Chirry Ndasio Gai hawa wote? October 28 at 9:18pm via mobile · Like Micah Kimaril that people are among the group of land slide. October 28 at 9:19pm · Like Cheruiyot Weroo Suter Im frm Kakimoyo October 28 at 9:21pm via mobile · Like Frederick Chepkole Talal waelewa sehemu nyingi,i wish ungekuwa mp then offcourse u will alocate more share to ua family as used to be,ama? October 28 at 9:21pm via mobile · Like Kibet Edwin Bro,there is a sereous developing story from this saga.can the people on the ground update us on what is happening. October 28 at 9:22pm via mobile · Like · 1 Edu Mosop Umekosa research ingine? October 28 at 9:23pm via mobile · Like Josphart Bett Are u studying history? October 28 at 9:24pm via mobile · Like Ben Lymo Wero Chemolok pliz guys be cautious ma-chepterit asipitie katikati for her own benefit. October 28 at 9:25pm via mobile · Like · 1 Mary Kiptum KAPCHEPKOSIR. October 28 at 9:25pm · Like Sammy Cheboi Kamoi? I thought Karel is the real owner ama? October 28 at 9:28pm · Like Cheruiyot Weroo Suter All October 28 at 9:42pm via mobile · Edited · Like Lawrence Maiyo Its NoMB October 28 at 9:30pm via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel @Cheruiyot pole kaka, It is my prayer that at the end of the day every person will be compensated, let justice prevail October 28 at 9:30pm via mobile · Like Evans Ngetich all thix r fr wat xielewi poa October 28 at 9:31pm via mobile · Like Zaphania Kiptoo Kaben,poryotwo October 28 at 9:32pm via mobile · Like Felix Kisang You failed to include kakilimo of Kaptirbai. October 28 at 9:32pm · Like Kibet Edwin Issue of the so called majepterit imeingilia wapi on this matter.my pple decist frm politicising on this n b real. October 28 at 9:34pm via mobile · Like · 2 Micah Kimaril mi ninaona PA wa kagugo anatuaribia kiongozi y that guy wrote another new list? October 28 at 9:42pm · Like · 1 Emmanuel Kipkore Talel @Felix thanks for the correction October 28 at 9:47pm via mobile · Like Willy van Kimwole Too long n not undertandable to the govt October 28 at 9:48pm · Like Dennis Suter People from KIPCHUMWA LOCATION (i.e Wewo, Katilit, Kakisoo,Kobil, sewes,Kakamasia) whose names appeared in the original list as LANDSLIDE but someone intentionally deleted all of them claiming that they are not the Right beneficiaries!. October 28 at 9:48pm via mobile · Like Evans Ngetich te group wich was thr ad no rexpect towrdx kagugo au can u held for public meeting without evn informing him an te agentarx to b dixcused needx him to b thr taking advantage wen he ix aut of country.......thy need rexpect kiboko yao October 28 at 9:49pm via mobile · Like · 1 Solomon Kiptoo Why old embobut is so detailed with a,b c,d in same clan and old embolot so simple ie kapker,kamogo kartur etc,Senator and Mca chesir must account for this and Kakugo to wake up,kimala wamekula hizi pesa zote. October 28 at 9:50pm via mobile · Like · 3 Eliud Chololi Kasokot Kowow October 28 at 9:52pm · Like Eliud Chololi Kitiyutwok? October 28 at 9:56pm · Like Willy van Kimwole Unaota mchana????? October 28 at 9:56pm · Like Evans Kosgey marich home. October 28 at 9:56pm via mobile · Like · 1 Emmanuel Kipkore Talel @Dennis Suter ,who are to be compensated? peolpe who are in forest ama landslide victims ama ni nani? October 28 at 10:01pm via mobile · Like Gk Jebet Na wote wako na lands somwea else. October 28 at 10:05pm via mobile · Like · 1 Paul Suter Chemeitoi The list that the county commissioner and others who pretend to know much about genuine evictees (squarters) in embobut is absolutely null and void October 28 at 10:16pm via mobile · Like · 1 Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Paul Suter, who are the Genuine people who should be compensated? October 28 at 10:21pm via mobile · Like Ramadhan Chebiego Take care land is a dangerous issue October 28 at 10:25pm · Like · 1 Rotich Kimore How about the original people evicted early in year 1984, many families respected the orders by the then government, they planted tree on the main Tirap forest there names were all inclusive in the first list but later deleted, please my people from kipkaner fight for your share yutirara wanamalisa kila kitu October 28 at 10:27pm via mobile · Like Dennis Suter @Talel,Those who are suppose to be compensated are those whose names appeared in the initial list. This is because those people from the villages i mentioned above live in Kamologon Tapkit Kiror among other areas ( which form a larger part of EMBOBUT FOREST) yet its residence were categorized as LANDSLIDE.Besides that im of the opinion that anyone whose name appeared in the original list irrespective of whether he/she is from Valley, forest or Landslide be compensated because its their names and ID Numbers that brought that money!!.The Title LANDSLIDE should be removed because it bars the genuine people and create room for those in power to reward their supporters/Relatives. October 28 at 10:29pm via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Dennis Suter, thanks, you have opened my eyes now,who has the first list? who removed the genuine people? October 28 at 10:31pm via mobile · Like Rotich Kimore our curren leadership is totally doomed they should produce the original list or risk ule wembe unaokuja October 28 at 10:39pm via mobile · Like Elias Kiptoo Kemboi @TALEL MR we blame the folowing,Labore n te taskforce,Proud MCA among other asslickers October 28 at 10:41pm · Like · 1 Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Rotich Kimore, who is this called current leadership?Ni Tolgos, ama Murkomen, Susan Chebet, Kakugo ama ni MCA October 28 at 10:42pm via mobile · Like Dennis Suter Talel,the first list i think is in the office of County Commissioner at chesoi and at Chiefs office in MARON.The county commissioner purported to understand people in EMBOBUT well hence deleting those who he claimed as outsiders.Though he did that in collusion with our elected leaders who pretend as if they dont understand the villages that form Embobut forest yet ironically, the SENATOR and area M.P are from Embobut!!. October 28 at 10:51pm via mobile · Like Michael Murkomen Fairness b done. The two lists should b used. They are all evicties. October 28 at 10:53pm via mobile · Like · 1 Stephen Yego KAPSIRAN October 28 at 10:54pm · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel @Denis Suter,am also wondering myself, kuna MCA, area MP is from Embobut, County Senator is from Embobut, Former MP knows Embobut very well, IG Mr David Kimaiyo is from Embobut. Shida iko wapi jameni? October 28 at 10:57pm via mobile · Like · 1 Alex Bitton Sort with the first list,then our current leaders to go for onother huntin for the remaining squarters coz those names were considered by ta last gava while they were not there. October 28 at 10:59pm via mobile · Like · 1 Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Alex, you are talking sense, the first list be sorted out first, then the second list be sorted out secondly October 28 at 11:02pm via mobile · Like Edwin Kipkoech Kanji A marakwet talking ill of our beloved SENATOR is totally cursed bcoz we know u subsribe to ta past. October 28 at 11:03pm via mobile · Like Paul Suter Chemeitoi @mr talel genuine people to be compensated in embobut r those who their grand fathers posses permit from our former colonists (british) example kapanguria kakapsis kakiplitan etc 2 the ndorobos example kimala (segwer) 3 the landslide affected people since 1961 example kamoi in embobut and recent kaben people etc October 28 at 11:08pm via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel @Paul,well I see you have historical information, are the people involved in this compensation program aware of this vita information? October 28 at 11:11pm via mobile · Like Stephen Yego Let us all go back to our roots. Our community owned land is properly demarcated. Someone in kiptabar has a pièce of land in keu. October 28 at 11:15pm · Like Dennis Suter Edwin Kipkoech Kanji , i think youre the one cursed. For a fact we dont need to praise leaders even when they go wrong as if they are our idols. They have to be corrected. Can you tell us what he has done to salvage the situation in Embobut? .He has just kept silent because his people sengwer/kimala were not affected!! . October 28 at 11:23pm via mobile · Like Alex Bitton The whole issue has been politizised for political mileage by our young current leaders,i wonder the senetor&ta mp were born and raised there while they r now confusing their old &young.The taskforce did a job weldone coz they were leaders one time&they know ta pple very well,confirm landslide victims if theyve encrotched in ra forest if yes why not be compensated?how to one feel if someone is compensated&never set foot on forest?what if someone has included his daughters married elsewhere? October 28 at 11:24pm via mobile · Like Thomas Kipkiror Wow!mr Talel Y left KAMARINY who owns their land tat kakisang had gramted by force,tey wil si! October 28 at 11:41pm · Like Hillary Kitum the entire proces have been politicise with our leaders rewarding their relative families and loyal friends. On the other hand, NO trust on so caled TASK FORCE. Only are being led by their greedy..the entire process is being characterised by d say NO USE OF RIGHT WHEN U DNT HAVE MIGHT ... October 28 at 11:45pm via mobile · Like John Kipkore u av tried wera Talel to mention sotenik bt task force dscrmnatd sootenik kwalak e.g kartur,kaptebego claiming tey av mosop nd kew hence were knockd out. te history of kirewawa forcd tem 2 settle kwa forest,safe grounds. wawecompensatd fully .soo sad Yesterday at 12:57am · Like Aron Kosgey Labore should be held responsible for all this mess, how practical it is that the entire Kapker village that only ten extended families benefited yet this compesated money belongs to govt and decided to delete thousands of names? Back to forest! Yesterday at 2:29am · Like · 1 Komen Kirop Shadrack Good news Mr hapo umenena Yesterday at 2:29am via mobile · Like Daniel Langat 1. If the noise continues,no compensation wil take place. Remember the govenment will not take money where war is. ....2. The leaders,i.e. Kakuko and murkomen should look at the root course of the discord,and make final decisions that will look fair to the people. And let us remember that not everyone will be compensated. Well i dont know who is in and who is not,but people dont start a war coz we will all lose. Yesterday at 2:36am via mobile · Edited · Like · 1 Didymus Kipkore Yatich I love ur conversations over this exercise,it was my wish that such mentioned clans had been mentioned earlier,the phrasethe hunter is one but the beneficiaries are manyis true Kaptirbai list of 2009 is the genuine list to be compensated. Yesterday at 6:20am · Like · 2 Barno Benjamen why not kwenoi of chesiyo /tirap ?those ple had been pushed 2 hills of kersich. hon .kakuko look into that issues of tirap Yesterday at 6:22am · Like · 1 Henry K Kizinja i think all squatters,landless marakwets were resettled in 13000 ha duke of manchesterkamendi leaving out the kimala? Yesterday at 6:33am via mobile · Like · 1 Nickson Edu Kisang Mention ITUM Village bordering kamekerich is also avictim of Landslide en somefew names were in te first list en lather removed,the 1st taskforce were nt blind to produce it bt our current mp should come out clearly as a leader and intervene this issue.My advice to Him is to stay away from his misleading kabor hence they might end up Tannishing his NAME 4EVA Yesterday at 7:08am via mobile · Like Henry Kasitet this compensation issue as became difficult for our leader to evaluate so not areas actully mr Talel,and remember landslide people already removed Yesterday at 8:18am via mobile · Like John Chemaringo the people of kamakirich have withstood two disasters; the landslide of 1961 and forceful removal from Chesiyo by Katamuge and Kakisegei. They deserve a respite this time round by being compensated like the rest of the people. Yesterday at 8:19am · Like · 1 John Chemaringo I grew up in Chesiyo until 1963 when I left the area while in Std 5. There were only three families from kwenoi and another three from Kaikisegei;Tomekur, Cheromor(Cheboiywo) and Kachebobei of kwenoi; Kewew, arap Kenduiywo, Makwani and Kimal of Kakisegei. The rest of the people in Chesiyo were migrant Sengwer who fled famine in Cherangany. Yesterday at 8:24am · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Aaron Kosgey, who is Labore? who is he in this compensation saga? Yesterday at 8:27am via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel John Chemaringo, according to you, who are the genuine people who should be compensated? landslide victims ama squatters? Yesterday at 8:29am via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Henry Kasitet, if you were Hon Kangogo, who would compensate? Yesterday at 8:30am via mobile · Like John Chemaringo The case of forest squatters has been complicated by many factors; politics is one. People who were registered in the 1930 to own permit in the glades were later ignored by the likes of Chapat, Boaz and the late Chelanga. The list of forest evictees is hard to verify because as soon as you have one list, another one is drawn by the same people. In my own opiniion, people should get out of the forest and settle on the escarpment like their ancestors because they are not trusted people.They keep on changing their status. Yesterday at 8:33am · Like John Chemaringo The landslide victims should be compensated first because one could identify them. Forest evictee is anybody alive and walking around Kaptirbai, Kabakazi, Kesoom, Tangul etc. No one can get to the bottom of this problem because greed is the culprit. Yesterday at 8:36am · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel John Chemaringo, if you were Hon Kangogo all people who are in forest should be removed with immediate effect? what of landslide victims? who do you blame? Yesterday at 8:38am via mobile · Like John Chemaringo If I were Hon. Kakuko, I would urge my electorate to think very carefully when talking of continuing living in the forest. When river embobut dries up, those in the highlands may be evicted by those from Keu when water is no longer available in the valley due to catchment destruction. I would let them draw their list and come up with another compromised list. No one should be discrimated against even if from the lowlands. Yesterday at 8:42am · Like John Chemaringo Our people should know that embobut forest does not belong to the government who is now evicting them, but it belongs to generations of Marakwet yet to be born. Our greed will surely have some effect in our future generations. Yesterday at 8:45am · Like · 3 Emmanuel Kipkore Talel John Chemaringo, are you from Embobut ward? why dont you give all this helpful information to the responsible people? Yesterday at 8:45am via mobile · Like Henry Kasitet ok Talel remember landslide people moved to forest after that calamity and were recognized as forest dwellers not for permit or ndorobos,so actually they should also compensated,place like katilit, wewo and kitany God knows if they will not b part of the list Yesterday at 8:46am via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel someone wrote this in my box,it is true? : infact nobody from kamogo who is supposed to be compensated,even kesegei n kachepkosir,let us be sincere to our hears and tell the truth, Yesterday at 8:49am via mobile · Like Evans Chelanga Emmanuel Kipkore Talel, You have everything and that should be the case Yesterday at 9:05am · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Evans Chelanga, we have everything? in term of? Yesterday at 9:08am via mobile · Like Evans Chelanga Emmanuel Kipkore Talel, what you have indicated is the true picture on the ground. I know you are not from Embobut but you have done your research properly Yesterday at 9:12am · Like · 1 Henry K Kizinja landslide vs forest dwellers victims Yesterday at 9:15am via mobile · Like · 1 Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Thanks, it is always my prayer that the families who are affected should be given a fair deal irrespective of their political affiliation, background, financial status, village etc, let justice prevail at all cost Yesterday at 9:15am via mobile · Like Wilfred Maiyo I came across a list compiled yesterday morning by a group of very serious looking men. I do not know these names but from the way each was closely guarding his/her kin from being removed in the list, I smell a rat! Anyone interested can hit ma inbox Yesterday at 9:17am via mobile · Edited · Like · 1 Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Henry Kizinja, Forest dwellers should be compensated ama landslide victims? Yesterday at 9:17am via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel Wilfred Maiyo, weka peupe, unaogopa nini na nani? Yesterday at 9:18am via mobile · Like Clement Kemboi Mussolini kasagur my home! Yesterday at 9:26am via mobile · Like · 1 Sammy Yator I am from kapyego! From what I know those who had title deeds should be compensated first! After that a commettee from old people of over 70 years should be formed to come up with the correct list of people! Like for kewabus I can tell the TRUE evictis! To avoid wrong information the elders elected should take a serious oath! Yesterday at 9:35am via mobile · Like · 1 Edwin Kipchoge Yano In fact mr. Talel has reasoned like a true leader of the people Yesterday at 10:22am via mobile · Like Mark Kanda Let them follow the previous government report to be in safer side you cannot afford to exclude landslide and pretend to safe our forest and replace them with cronies Yesterday at 10:34am · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel @Mark Kanda, who has that government list?are this money for forest dwellers ama ni ya landslide victims? who are these cronies, ni ya nani? Yesterday at 10:39am via mobile · Like · 1 Patrick Kipchumba any list other than the original one will never be correct. the leaders of marakwet should be more sober now than ever as the issue of compensation is fragile.landslide victims should not complicate the whole issue.the problem is that everybody wants to be compensated and the pple of markwet esp from east are difficult to handle Yesterday at 11:07am via mobile · Like · 1 Dickson Kibor why cant every1 be sorted out.These are Government money and there is no loss if a handfull Yesterday at 11:52am · Like · 1 Dickson Kibor of our relatives and neighbours get a share...........its only in marakwet where such cannot happen and there is no loss if a handfull Yesterday at 11:53am · Like · 1 Mark Kanda @ Talel you are very much aware government had approved figure of squatters to be resettled Sengwer, Permit holders and landslide victims they must have made that informed decision on a certain document. Deleting some names and not becoming open on those replacing them is questionable. Landslides were 984 and i heard all of them were branded imposters in nation news paper. Not everybody was captured but 98% was captured let us appreciate those ones and we build a case after that......learn lessons from post election IDPs they take what is in the hand and ask for more not saying delete this or that Yesterday at 1:53pm · Like · 2 Robert Biwott Kipruto Mr Telel, the problem is our leaders.How can a name belongs to a Mkamba n pokot apear kwa hiyo list.We deeply regret electing them. 20 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2 Solomon Kiptoo As you wonder about who is in the list and worried on how the money will be scondered in the hands of innocent young men who have never handled such cash,this will cost some lifes thr robbery,drunkedness,conned or wasted,the government should have considered land educate people first on Financial literacy and budgeting,am sure no one will buy kand with the cash. 17 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2 Justine Kosgei Hw comes mkeiyo,mpokot atokee kwa list ya embobt glades? while the residence claim there names was deleted, the lders were so much corrupted inafaha watiwe ndani. 5 hours ago via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel @Justine Kosgei, what do you mean pokot, Keiyo kupatikana kwa list? who do you think inlcuded those names? 5 hours ago via mobile · Like Emmanuel Kipkore Talel @Robert Biwott? kuwa Serious, Jina ya mkamba pia kwa list? hiyo jina ya mkamba inaitwa aje? sema hapa tuone sahihi 5 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1 Shadrack Shaeddy nawafuata.endeleza this ndrama 5 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1 Kiptoo Kiplagat Barnabas Kwani sisi Keiyos tukipata hiyo pesa inakua cancer? What of the ones xprncd landslide. Borokok en akwek. 4 hours ago via mobile · Like Kemboi Justus I blame the leadership of Hon kilimo and also the current leaders for playing politics with the people.we need all and genuine names of all residents from all villages to be inluded and submitted to government,we are more than 15000 not 2000 has ...... 4 hours ago · Like Kemboi Justus Indicated.its not good for us to table leadership for our leaders for example the current leaders.we need the serving leaders,leaders who represent the voiceless in the contemporary society.let us go back to drawing board and look way forward 4 hours ago · Like · 2 John Kimosop Kipchumba Can we get the comprehensive list for the pple to be compensated in our face-books for
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