Ok, so after my first day of messing around with auto align, I had some growing pains and a roadblock.. there seems to be some conflicting info out there that either is not 100% accurate, or Im not understanding it correctly. In regards to mixing a fully recorded project, and optimizing drums, which is what Im focusing on with what Im doing and this example, there seems to be something that doesnt sound right. There seems to be a popular opinion, both in some posts Ive read, as well as most of the tutorial videos online (such as this one https://youtube/watch?v=hmc8waauOsU) that the best way to do this is to align everything to either OHs or the OH closest to the hi hat/snare such as the video I just linked. But there is just one problem. As in this video, the kick has shifted ahead 308 samples and the snare shifted ahead 56. Thats a difference between them of 252 samples. So basically the kick is like 7ms ahead, and the snare like a little over 1ms. For simplicity sake lets assume this recording is just 3 mics, OH, snare, kick. So say you do this, and then you want to print/export these so they could rejoin the project which contains all the instruments which have either all been edited tightly to a grid with the original pre-processed drums, or everything has been played in a tight groove locked to the drums. In either case there is a big problem here. Once you lock all the processed drum regions and nudge them back so that say the processed kick aligns with the pre-processed original kick, or the proc. snare with the pre-proc. snare, only one of them will line up, and the other will be slightly off. In this example, assuming the project is at 44.1 it will be about 6ms off. Which is a big difference. I bring this up because I ran into this very problem and realized the only way to do it is to have a different hierarchy of locking stuff to each other. Something along the lines of locking one room to the other, hats/toms/spot cymbals to the oh. the oh to the top snare, and bottom snare to top snare, and the outside kick to the inside kick. the inside kick and top snare are the only two things that stay at 0 movement to preserve the essence of the beat foundation as the groove and pocket is primarily based on those. and shifting them without their relationship and time proportions locked even 5-10 ms front or back will mess it up. So maybe Im missing something, it is very likely, but if Im not then it is something to consider for people who just lock everything to ohs. Again, I could be wrong, Im not sure, so some discussion on this would be cool. Thanks
Posted on: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 08:31:06 +0000
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