RE: REASON FOR EAST COAST PANGILENIANS SEPARATING FROM WEST COAST PANGILENIANS (Whats New? Among Us Native Filipinos): - FOR THOSE NOT IN THE MAILING LISTS. Hello Guia et al, I decided to respond to the issues you raised by supporting with full, original emails between subject persons and your PACI/western Pangilenian rulers. (NOTE: SORRY, GMAIL OR YAHOO DID NOT ALLOW TRANSMITTAL WITH COMPLETE EMAILS, THUS, ONLY DATES ARE PROVIDED HERE, WITH SOME TEXTUAL EXTRACTS.) In private and professional communications, I always believed in the use of “original documents” or written words as they are verifiable, i.e. documented evidence, so to speak. I let these exchanges speak for themselves. Unfortunately, there may still be a few instances that have to be anecdotal as I tried to minimize naming names, I wished your so-called leaders did the responding; well, I cannot blame them if they are not able to write. But if someone is interested in more specifics, email me. NOTE: All blames regarding sourcing and its use should be laid on me. To you all who are interested or curious to know more about this rural-minded saga, please read/digest the below exchanges for your better appreciation and/or entertainment --if you have much leisure time in your hands. I posted the emails under the relevant paragraphs. My added comments in bold. – Bert PS. I am ending my part in this pesky saga. Any further communications should have verifiable claims. You all are welcomed to visit my website where I have addressed much more relevant concerns. If you like critical thinking and not afraid to do so, youll whet your appetite in it and know more about me (LOL!). Click below URL (link): - Bert thefilipinomind/2013/08/primary-postsreadings-for-my-fellow.html Many Filipinos are what I call Sunday-religious, that is they go to church every Sunday, take in confession and communion, but the rest of the week they bribe and do corrupt deeds... - Dr. Pura Santillan-Castrence (1905-2007) ++++++++++++++++++++++ REGARDING CANOSA QUERIES, PROJECT DOCUMENTS, HUGE DIVIDE AMONGST NICE TOWNSPEOPLE, NEGATIVITY, WHO IS HEIDI AND ALL THAT JAZZ, ETC. 1. Guia, you claim you had a copy, I presume of the project documents, during supposed Renty’s presentation at your September 2013 fiestahan. How does your claim jibe with Consuelo’s October 16 request for permission to pass along the project information to members and her October 27 email releasing said information? Are you one then, though not an officer and thus not directly copied by Heidi, who has access to information before any other non-officer-member? 2. I do not know how and why you have inferred that Canosa’s queries were used by me to “architect” (designed) to make a huge divide and breed negativity. When Canosa emailed me I reminded her that Heidi previously addressed those via Emoy cc’ed his fellow respectable colleagues including her. Re-read my previous emails which cc’ed each Pangilenian East/West in the mailing lists, and those include you. 3. You alluded to what happens to the funds if the project does not proceed. Do not tempt me to go there; suffice to say that such concern is one reason I left your esteemed group. Project failure for us was not an option, but instead an incentive for me and Heidi to make good and finish our renovation project no matter what, whether we have enough money or not; and despite naysayers and bad-mouthers. I resolved to do the project execution efficiently and effectively while Heidi worked extremely hard to solicit funds. If I may say, Heidi was even ready to risk her own money to ensure it through. 4. Before this renovation project, you must admit that there is already a huge divide for years between you Pangilenians of the West and East. I personally have heard much negativity from individuals in the West about Heidi in particular.. And I heard negative description of her from you years before! I was very surprised when even my priest-brother told me, whom I visited him 2 years ago, that he heard Heidi was arrogant. Who do you think would feed him that? And you talk of progress. Look at the mirror and/or around your Pangilenian crowd. 5. Furthermore, when I first met the current parish priest to inquire: why he would not allow the project use of parish electricity and why he would not be supporting this renovation project, i.e. not joining in the solicitation drive (like what the holy members his Parish Council later declared to Imelda Galing) –in contrast to his predecessor Fr. Noel who has accompanied solicitors and has planned to do in our project then, but unfortunately was transferred to Paete. Aside from claiming it is not a parish project, the current priest alluded to hearing about this internecine conflict between you Pangilenians west/east. 6. From whom do you think this current parish priest got this feedback which apparently he swallowed lock, stock and barrel prior to meeting Heidi and/or hearing her side? He admitted that he knew Pangilenians (your western/LA crowd) while he was a 4-5 years (?) pastor in the LA area as I mentioned in previous email. Think honestly and decide. I suspect those west coast Pangilenian rumor-mongerers and allies in town are the holier-than-thou’s who mingle and love to kiss-ass a priest, then and now, more so a bishop. He must be so strongly influenced by these hypocrites that even the 10,000 pesos given him by bleeding-heart Heidi did not make him decide otherwise, i.e. accept that it is a parish project then. Bless their holy souls. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ EMAILS: HEIDI --> RENTY (Sept 5,2013) + cc; EMOY,, SELBY/MING, MYRNA, JOSIE, EVELYN, CONSUELO, LILY, Just to correct your misunderstanding in your message below. Again, this is not my/our project, but Parish Project. I have just been involved as a volunteer orchestrating it finally with Father, while I was in Pangil. Therefore, I did not and will not obligate you to be a volunteer in the West Coast. As you said, youll mention this project in your meeting, and providing them copy of at least Fathers letter is just appropriate. Again, sorry if you feel you are being obligated. It is just a request, which I thought makes sense. As I have mentioned in one of my correspondences with Lily, which you were also copied, I have no problem extending detailed explanations/clarifications on this project and would willingly handle their donations directly, as they wish. I very well understand the associations situation there as well as here in the East Cost. If we cannot take ownership of a project due to finances, we cant and we wont. The option we took in this project of the century is to individually donate to this good cause for our dear town of Pangil, whatever individual/family can afford to donate, which is true in any charity/community work. I hope I cleared any misunderstanding. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RENTY--> HEIDI (Sept 4, 2013) cc: same as above + Fe I will be out of the country for a couple of weeks and will not be at the fiestahan. It is best if you can mail the architect plan to Pres. Renty. I do not know what the outcome of the general meeting and the officers and board meeting after the fiestahan. I recommend that you recruit your volunteer and train them how you want the solicitation to be done. No one knows except you the procedure of this solicitation. As I said I will be out of the country and will not be able to attend the fiestahan nor communicate further with you. Take care, Lily _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Enclosed Lilys email so it will be clear to you that I agree with what she said. Take note of the underlined sentences above. I am not your volunteer..sorry. Dont throw it to me those responsibilities which I dont know who will be doing it for you. Okay noong nagusap tayo sa telepono I made it clear to you na hindi ako nag-commit tungkol sa project na yan. Ang sabi ko lang ay ii-presenta ko sa meeting ang gusto mong project at ang napagkasunduan ay voluntary individual donation gaya nang nasa letter ni Lily. Nag-commit na ang PAUSA sa Our Lady of Nativity Parish sa Sound System Project na katatapos lang. Ngayon ano sa palagay mo, sa laki ng project na sinasabi mo gaano o paano mo makukumbinsi ang mga tao na mag-donate sa maikling panahon lang? Kaya nga open sa kababayans natin kung sila ay magbibigay pero huwag mo akong obligahan ng dapat gawin either para saiyo o sa parish church natin. Sana malinaw ito saiyo and I dont need any response from you. Renty ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HEIDI --> RENTY (Sept 3, 2013) + same as above Forgot to mention in my email last night. I know it is in your agenda, but wont hurt to remind.. Since Lily is away, kindly provide our kababayans there with Father Noels solicitation letter as well as the project fact sheet and solicitation form, which Im attaching again for your ready copy. At least we inform them during your fiestahan meeting, which avoided mailing them. Lily may have not received the hard copy of the architects plan I sent her via post office, before she left for her trip. Do you want me to send you the soft copy in time for the fiestahan? Please let me know, so I can scan them (12 pages) OR the picture drawing only for each part (4 pages). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HEIDI --> EMOY + cc: same as above (Aug 26, 2013) Since this is direct to Parish of Pangil, I dont think we need their tax ID in the Phils. I would think that Our Lady of Nativity Parish of Pangil will be enough. As I have done here, PAUSA may have someone there to be a point person, who will receive the donation and remit to Fr. Noel for the account of the project. I have volunteered as the point person (also the clearing agent) here, and Ill just send the funds to the A/C # established in a bank for this project, which Father Noel still has to provide. I also need to periodically update the members on the donors/amount, as well as provide the list to Fr. Noel of the donors/names to be engraved on the tiles and whether it is the floor tile or fence tile. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONSUELO --> ALL WEST COAST MEMBERS (Sept 27, 2013) To make the story short, there Heidi was in our living room, no airs at all, no qualms about any topic to discuss, just full of enthusiasm and joy at meeting me. She and her daughter made me feel like we knew each other for a long, long time and that were just people who did not see each other for weeks. She was far different from what I thought of her. We never had a chance to talk about the patio project at our home but at dinner where I joined her at the invitation of the Nalagans, I had the opportunity to meet with them for the first time through Heidis extended invitation, I saw the Patio Project Plan first hand. I saw the grandeur of the plan, and how it will make us proud as Pangilenos all together. I wish that all of you will have the opportunity to see that plan in picture. Heidi continued to emphasize that it is not EAST COAST project nor Heidis, but it is all of Pangilenos, both in the Philippines and here in the U.S. She is just an instrument, a vehicle for making that plan put into reality. As a poor Pangileno, my contribution is just a trickle, but combined with what all of us can give, that will make a big difference. Our help no matter how small will make a dream come true. Let us destroy the wall of suspicion, anger, un forgiveness, envy or jealousy and build a project of love, honor and pride for our small town. I must say that, I am grateful to God for Heidi, In spite of her health, she took it upon herself to help pursue this project. I hope you will all consider sending any amount to this project of our home town as a legacy to our grand children and the coming generation. God bless us all. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. ON WHO GOT AND WHEN PROJECT INFORMATION WAS SHARED IN THE WILD WEST: 1 Yes I was not in your picnic because I was not anymore an active, paying member. Guia, as you may know even then, I stopped attending/paying attention to your group’s activities several years ago. I have mentioned to you at times some of the reasons, including having “officers” who could not write a decent letter in English and would ask someone to do so, why I got turned off. 2 Amusing you try to lecture me about communication. I was not born yesterday. Anybody who has studied effective communication in human organization would know that verbal transmission is neither effective nor efficient. Anything verbally transmitted is deniable/revised or claimed forgotten/erased in memory (as Ronald Reagan loved to demonstrate). Thus, a good reason writing is best in whatever form. And in much of my writing, i.e. thefilipinomind website, I spend much effort about trace-ability of my claims/positions on issues. I apply that even on petty matters like this Pangilenian saga. 3. Maybe nobody directly said “do not give;” but when Cesar Madrasto in Canada, who happens to be my relative, claims he does not want to offend his sister Fe and brother-in-law Renty, your cousin, one needs no such direction; I venture to guess this latter couple is wary of the Selby/Ming tandem. Or another Salamat withdrawing her pledge. And the Michigan coordinator being told not to bother calling and soliciting his brother-in-laws doctor-sons. Without belaboring more the obvious, you know how we native Filipinos tend to think and act - which I wrote about in my email. You can apply a multiplier-effect among other native Filipinos/Pangilenians who carry such cultural baggage. Herd or tribal mentality - for good or evil. 4. I do not retract any word, i.e. stupid, hypocrites, etc. I said or wrote. I meant to rub it into their consciousness. They know who they are. You know me enough how brutally frank I am --when I feel and think I need to. Bottom-line, I try to make the best effort to have integrity and even flatter myself for being misunderstood. LOL. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONSUELO --> RENTY + CC: EMOY,, SELBY/MING, MYRNA, JOSIE, EVELYN, CONSUELO, LILY, (October 16, 2013) I would like to know if I can flag this to all our kababayans here in the west coast? I just thought that they have to right to all information given regarding the patio project. Hoping to hear from you ASAP, THANK YOU. CONSUELO --> RENTY + CC: ALL WEST COAST MEMBERS (October 22, 2013) I want to share with you some important information regarding the project of the century for our hometown. This project will be something everyone will be proud of because it will bring cultural, spiritual, social, and economic progress to our hometown on top of the beauty which will attract tourists to come, invest or simply visit our hometown frequently. This is not a project of one person but a collaboration of so many concerned citizens of Pangil with the blessings of the Bishop and the parish pastor of our Lady of Nativity Church. I invite you to be a part of this inspiring project, that you will be proud of for years to come. Any help you can give will be your legacy to your descendants and a remembrance of your ownership for your land of birth. God bless you all. Please open the attachments and discover how you can be a part of it ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. I will let Heidi to answer this supposed rejection of PACI donation. 2. I did not imply that non-donation makes one less of Pangilenian. Frankly, I do not care if one does not contribute. All I care or am pissed about are those who cowardly speak against the project before, during and even after – though not necessarily directed to or approached me. Else I would have been happy to accommodate them. I heard of a few who criticized, but did not contribute -therefore to me these people did not exist or earn/deserve to be listened to. 3. As to religion and hypocrisy, I truly mean what I wrote. You have to practice whatever you profess/show to be. Else what? As I said in my previous letter, we native Filipinos always seem to first worry about what another would say, not whether one is true to one’s proclaimed belief/principle, etc. Is questioning one’s lack of consistency to such judgmental? Would one who is sure of his beliefs be uncomfortable if his belief system were questioned? Hey, we are in a democracy not in a theocraZy, so one can say or think what you want! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. Well, I agree about ones’ chosen charities. I do not know why you have to state that your group has done charities/projects too? Did you infer that I claimed otherwise? I myself have contributed to your group’s projects, in cash and even to a food collection you did. 2. Having names engraved in stone was a useful marketing tool in this huge renovation project. The contributors did not ask otherwise. I have a relative who commented why names have to be engraved, but he never donated. Why should I listen to him then? 3. I do not have my pictures taken while giving away stuff unless someone took stolen shots of me (LOL); in contrast to a few in your group who do so and publicize them. Look at the mirror. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ME FIGHTING HEIDIS PETTY BATTLES? 1. Well, I am not into noble gestures or what not. I simply declared my raison d’être for volunteering. 2. Again, I meant those nasty words and I do not regret saying them. I do not worry if I alienated or demeaned certain people. Any thinking person honest with himself knows whom I refer to and lovingly dedicate my nasty words. 3. Amusing for you to say I am fighting Heidi’s battles, more so with a typical rural-minded, hypocritical town mate. I venture to guess my act would be an insult to Heidi’s intelligence. She is surely assertive and smart enough to fight and stand on her own. That is why she came to reach what native Filipinos/Filipinas very rarely attain in a North American company; exceptionally so at a Top 5 Corporation in Wall Street. 4. To allude to such is insulting to my intelligence too (LOL). I followed up Heidi’s email simply due to the fact these puerile, years-long poisonous rants about her are sickening. I took the occasion to highlight the disgustingly, predominantly rural way of thinking of our native Filipino Mind. 5. And how about you Guia? Are you not being a mouthpiece for your respectable and self-proclaimed “professional” officers? Are they unable to write on their own? Oh, I remember, you told me years ago that you used to write love-letters for a cousin. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. I disagree about your hindsight which I find irrelevant. As I alluded to in my previous email, the poisonous atmosphere really needs to be addressed. Whether there was a Patio project or not, the poisoned atmosphere was there, before, during and after; for years. Where were you, in outer space? 2. As Heidi has emailed, she was hearing about it from people while working on the project out there. As I said, it is her fault and naiveté for letting such attacks/comments slide past for so long. Perhaps she was trying to be an authentic Christian, i.e. offer the other cheek? Or maybe garner brownie points from her/your god? LOL. 3. Re a “hello,” Funny you would make such a silly suggestion to Heidi. Was she born yesterday too? After I have read Heidi’s several letters to your much esteemed officers, my perception of her was that she was engaging in self-flagellation, by humbling herself too much. If I were related to her, I would have been angered by such and would have kicked her ass. 4. If you have read, with an open mind, Heidi’s emails to your esteemed officers-friends, you will realize that from the get go, she never proclaimed that it is an East Coast Project. It was I ALONE who declared and published that “it is a Pangilenian East Coast Project” as I told the parish priest when I rushed him inside the church. Since at the time majority of our renovation project’s funding were from the East Coast and some non-Pangilenian friends. 5. I was pleased to later know that a few independently thinking PACI westerners talked with, understood and respected Heidi; and thus donated. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. You humor me when you talk about authenticity. 2. I do not mind if you perceive my comments as adding to it. I wrote as I think and feel how it was and is. I like and love rocking the boat of complacency and/or ignorance. The Mission Statement in my thefilipinomind website declares so (and in much more serious topics that this crappy trail we follow about here). 3. I repeat, I do not retract any word, i.e. hypocrites, etc. I said or wrote. I meant to rub it into their consciousness. They know who they are. And you know me enough as to how brutally frank I am --when I feel and think I need to. And bottom-line, that is, to do the best effort to have integrity (and even flatter myself for being misunderstood, LOL.) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. Chuling has already amassed brownie points from your god. 2. I venture to bet she is now considered a pariah by the “powers-that-be” in your group. I suppose, for her trying to practice authentic Christianity and persistently suggesting fairness – perceived as heresy I guess. Quite an ass-ociation down there, run like a tight ship, asking permission to share project information from a group, short of being like a medieval Inquisition? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 3. I was exposed to much rain and sun, but was able to control myself and not show my part where the sun does not shine. - BERT
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