SAINTS ARE GODS BUT NOT MEANT TO BE WORSHIPPED NELLY: Is it true that the saints are gods? CONSTANCE: Yes it is. NELLY: Can saints become gods before they die or translate? CONSTANCE: Saints are gods even before they die, because they are children of God: To say it is not possible for men to become gods before they die is to say it is not possible for them to become children of God before they die. There in the scriptures, He called them gods because they were children of God, although they will still die despite they were gods: As it is written, “I have said, “You are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But you shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.” (Psalms 82:6-7) NELLY: What if the gods (children of God) die like men, will they cease to be gods? CONSTANCE: Samuel was one to the saints of the Most High who died; and when King Saul went to a necromancer to enquire of the saint, who was dead, the witch of Endow cried out to Saul and said to him, “I see the gods ascend out of the earth” (1 Samuel 28:13). She still saw them as gods though they were dead in the flesh: therefore, the death of the child of God only removes the humanity from them and leaves them as gods. NELLY: But the woman said the gods ascend from the earth, not from heaven; this suggests they ascend from hell which is probably where they were. CONSTANCE: Yes, by then, both the saints and sinners go to different parts of hell: The saints go to the part of hell referred to as Abraham’s Bosom, while the sinners go the part of hell referred to as the place of torment, as described by Jesus in Luke 16:22. You may have read where Samuel told Saul that by this time tomorrow, Saul and his sons must come and join him where he (Samuel) was already: meaning, both Samuel the Saint and Saul the disobedient sinner were to be together in the land of the dead (1 Samuel 28:19). There the sinners will be separated from the saints with a great gulf with Abraham described to the Rich Man in hell (Luke 16:26). Both the saints and the sinners were together in hell, until Jesus died and descended into hell, and preached to the souls in hell both the saints and sinners (1 Peter 3:18-22) brought all the saints from their graves or hell and transferred them to the holy City (Heavenly Jerusalem or heaven) after the resurrection of Jesus: As it is written, “And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.” (Matthew 27:52-53) NELLY: I understand that the saints were sleeping in their graves until Jesus came and woke them up and transferred them to the city of heaven according to the scripture you cited. What I do not understand is, how do you relate between Saul speaking with the late saint (Samuel) and Jesus speaking with the late saints Moses and Elijah? CONSTANCE: 1. In the case of Samuel appearing and speaking with Saul, Saul was disguised as another man while Samuel was still having his attires on because all who go to hell must remain with their attires which they had when they died, such as the cloth they were wearing, the hair style, the marks on their bodies, as they were dressed the moment they died is how they will remain in hell: Therefore, when the witch described the gods that was coming to meet them as an old man wearing a mantle, Saul knew it was Samuel because that was his dressing before he died (1 Samuel 28:14); 2. But in the case of Moses and Elijah appearing and speaking with Jesus, Jesus was transfigure into another being while Elijah and Moses appeared in glory with him (they were not having the attire they had when they died). Even Jesus was not having the same attire he had when he died, after his resurrection. In the case of Samuel, he was still an old man even though he was a god; but when Jesus brought immortality, all men becomes new in Christ and there is no saint in Christ that is old. NELLY: Why is Saul consultation with late saint Samuel considered as necromancy or sin against God even though the saint himself came up when the witch woman called him up? If it was a sin, God should not have allowed the saint to respond to the call of the witch who practiced necromancy and calling of the late saints of God by invocation or prayer. To me, everything the witch told Saul and everything Samuel, whom the witch invoked, told Saul was altogether true. By the way, why should a mere witch have the powers to invoke or wake a great prophet like Samuel out of Sleep and have him answer to the call of summon? Is the witch supernaturally greater than Samuel or had Samuel became so weak that he could be controlled in such way? CONSTANCE: The reason Saul speaking with the late Saint Samuel was a sin, while Jesus speaking with Late saint Moses and Saint Elijah was righteous, was not because of the personalities they were speaking with, neither is it because of the truth or authenticity of the words they were saying; rather it is simply because Saul consulted the witch instead of consulting God: As it is written, “So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he did not keep, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; And enquired not of the LORD: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse.” (1 Chronicles 10:13-14). Jesus consulted with the Father before Moses and Elijah came and conversed with him, but Saul consulted with the familiar spirits or necromancer. It is not about the facts or results of the things one had, but more about the means through which they came: God is more interested in how you made your money than how much you made, God is more interested in how you made your results in Examination classes than how much marks you gained. To man, the ends are more important than the means; but to God, the means are more important than the ends: For God tries the heart of man and not his pockets or stores. Before Peter said Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, the demons in madmen had already cried and said Jesus is the Son of God (Mark 1:24): But Jesus had to rebuke the demons because the means is not acceptable by God, while he later recommended that of Peter because it was of the Father (Matthew 16:16-17). Those things Satan offered to Jesus in his temptation in the wilderness were what God will later offer to the same Jesus, but Jesus will reject those of Satan simply because they were not from God. Eve saw the fruit as good and will make one wise, but she did not realize that when good things comes from the hand of devil, instead of God, it becomes evil against God. It is not about the result or goodness of the gift, but more about the means through which it is acquired or who is giving those things in connection to God. It is better God gives you what belongs to Satan, than for Satan to give you what belongs to God: The giver and means to gain a gift is more important than the gift itself. How is better than how much. What happened to Saul can be connected with what happened to the king of Samaria who was about to inquire from a native doctor: As it is written, “But the angel of the LORD said to Elijah the Tishbite, “Arise, go up to meet the messengers of the king of Samaria, and say to them, “Is it not because there is not a God in Israel, that you go to enquire of Baalzebub the god of Ekron? Now therefore thus says the LORD, you shall not come down from that bed on which you are on, but shall surely die. And Elijah departed.”” (2 Kings 1:3-4) These are the reasons why I tell people never to follow the Signs of Zodiak or the stars connected with the date or months in which they were born in order to know their personalities or predictions: All who do so are gaining results through devilish means. However, the reason the witch could invoke Samuel and Samuel came was because they were still in hell by then, and God allowed Samuel to respond in order to give Saul his word. Even the witch was surprised at the coming of the gods because she never expected them, rather she thought a demon would disguised itself and come as that man as they usually trick people to believe it is really the soul of the person they knew. You can see that when Samuel came up, even the witch trembled and she confessed that she took a great risk. 1. When Jesus brought out Moses and Elijah, it was perfect; but, 2. When Saul and the witch woman brought out Samuel, there was a breach of silence and quietness in the spiritual; which was why the first statement Samuel made to Saul was, why have you disquieted me? (Why have you breached the quietude and tranquility of my sleep) No devilish means can do such things perfectly or at the right timing: therefore, Saul broke three rules: • He enquired from devils instead of God; which resulted in • He breached the sleep and transquility or process of the flow of the spirits in an offensive way; and, • He bowed down and worshipped Saint Samuel as gods in honouring him immediately Samuel appeared to him, instead of Saul honouring and worshipping only God (1 Samuel 28:14).
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