The Ecclesia Began with Abraham The Church (ecclesia, Called Out Ones) have been around since God called out Abraham. It has been said that Israel and the Church are two separate entities. While at one time, we may all have believed that, we cannot and will not continue to believe that false teaching. It has been drummed into our heads in order to make us believe there are two Dispensations; one for the Church and one for Israel. What is wrong with the above teaching is that, it seems those that teach this, DO NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE JEWS. The Church (ecclcesia, Called Out Ones) have been around since God called out Abraham. At the Coming of Jesus Christ, as prophesied by Daniel, among others, The Redemptive price was paid. Jesus, Himself, declared it so, It is Finished. The ecclesia, which is translated assembly denotes the whole body of the redeemed. All those whom the Father has given to Christ - the invisible universal church (Eph. 5:23, 25, 27, 29, Heb. 12:23) Before Christ became the Lamb of God, the ecclesia lived by faith. After the Lamb of God shed His Blood, the ecclesia live by grace purchased for us and faith that His Work will bring His return, which is preceded by the Dead being called out first and then those that remain will meet Him in the air. Quote: I Thess. 4:16-17. For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel. And with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first; Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; And so shall we ever be with the Lord. To imply that the whole body of the redeemed, whom the Father has given to Christ, are made up of only the New Testament Body, (whom, by the way, was not born that day but received the power of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost) is limiting Gods redemption plan to just those of the New Testament Era. It really needs to be understood that the ecclesia was not born on the Day of Pentecost but was born the day that God called out Abraham and by obedience Abraham confirmed the Covenant made between he and God. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHURCH. The English word is derived probably from the Greek kuriakon (i.e,, the Lords house) which was used by ancient authors for the place of worship. In the New Testament, it is the translation of the Greek word Ecclesia, which is synonymous with the Hebrew kahal of the Old Testament. Both words meaning simply an assembly, the character of which can be known only from the connection in which the word is found. There is no clear instance of its being used for a place of meeting or of worship, although in Post-apostolic times, it early received this meaning. Nor is the word ever used to denote the inhabitants of a country united in the same profession, as when we say the Church of England, the Church of Scotland, etc. We find the word ecclesia used in the following senses in the New Testament: 1. It is translated assembly in the ordinary classical sense (Acts 19:32, 39, 41) 2. It denotes the whole body of the redeemed - all those whom the Father has given to Christ - the invisible universal church (Eph. 5:23, 25, 27, 29; Hebr. 12:23) 3. A few Christians associated together in observing the ordinances of the gospel are an ecclesia (Rom. 26:5, Co. 4:15). 4. All the Christians in a particular city, whether they assembled together in one place or in several places for religious worship was an ecclesia. Thus all the disciples in Anticoch, forming several congregations, were one Church (Acts 13:11) (More on this subject can be read The End Times Passover by Joe Ortiz - pages 7,8) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A reading of the Old Testament is proof of who the Called Out Ones are. Abraham was a Hebrew, not an Israelite. This Called Out body made up of the Gentiles that joined Abraham and his family that continued their walk of faith, did not become known as Israelites until Jacobs name was changed to Israel by God Himself. Then, to get an absolute clear picture of what makes up Israel, one needs to understand that the 12 sons of promise given to Jacob make up the 12 tribes that lived in a United Kingdom called Israel during the reign of Solomon. Most of us are quite clear of how the 10 tribes split from the two tribes of Judah & Benjamin (also the Levites) after Solomon. Now Israel was divided...The Northern Kingdom and the Southern Kingdom. History tells us that most of the Northern Kingdom were scattered to the 4 winds when the Assyerians invaded. Yes, for the sake of argument, there was an remnant that made up the Northern Kingdom remained in the land and rejoined the Southern Kingdoms rule. The Jews rejected Jesus Christ as their Messiah. Jesus came unto the House of Israel to bring Salvation. These were the other Sheep of His Fold who were now scattered at the time of His Coming. Among the House of Israel are the Gentiles that joined them. There have always been Gentiles such as Ruth, Esther, Rahab that became a part of the Children of Isreal. That same Israel is the entity that makes up the present believers. The exception would be those of the Tribe of Dan, from whom would spring the A/C as prophesied by both Moses and Jacob about Dan. That cannot be disputed no matter how one wants to waltz around the issue. They turned their back on the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, took up pagan practices and mixed their seed with the seed of Satan. The Bible makes references to the Sons of Satan. That is not a mere term but is taking the reader back to what occurred in the Garden, when the Seed of the Serpent was planted and for which God condemned him to a life-time of crawling upon his belly in the dirt. There are those that belittle this fact regarding the 10 tribes of Northern Israel by implying that, because the Royal Houses of Europe are of the Dannite, Satanic lineage, that the common people are also. The Royal Blood-line or Illuminated Ones scream in horror if you should put them into the same category as the Common folks. The Illuminati claim lineage to the Fallen angels. No one, on this site, has ever said that these Fallen angels were human. That would be another example of stretching the facts. Any Bible Scholar knows that the angels are able to assume the body of a human, which is seen in the stories of Abraham entertaining two men who turned out to be messengers (angels) from God telling him that his wife Sarah would have a child in her old age. Angels were seen going into Sodom and Gemorrah and desired by the men of the city. So, it is no secret or false claim to say that angels (whether good or bad) could appear as humans. But back to this subject of the Church and Israel being two separate entities. THEY ARE NOT as proven by the examples given in this text. Who are separate entities to this day is Israel and the Jews. Sorry, those of you who believe they are one and the same...they are not. They remain two separate sticks until God joins the two together. I know there are those that say they are united already because there is a nation called Israel. However, that claim is speaking without understanding that the Jews make up the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin (including Levite priests who are not tribes) The Jews (The Southern Kingdom) Regarding the differences between Jews and Israel, while God made many promises to Abraham, one being that all nations shall be blessed through Abraham, God also made other individual promises and prophecies to the individual twelve tribes of Israel. One of these promises include that the tribe of Judah would continue to be the administrators of the Mosaic laws until the Messiah returns. The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of people be. (Genesis 49:10) This specific prophecy included the continual teaching and administration of the laws He gave to Moses, which are now viewed by present day Jews as the only way of salvation However, as the minister of circumcision (servant of the Jews) for the truth of God, Jesus came to confirm all the promises made unto the fathers, the patriarchs of Israel, the nation of promise, which included the fulfillment of the Law. (Matthew 5:17) I know that once a person can understand that the Jews and Israel are not the same entity( but that Israel and the Gentile Believers are the ones that make up the ecclesia), then this issue of a separate dispensation for the ecclesia has to be thrown out. It holds no validity. There is a day of reckoning coming for the Jewish Religious Hierarchy. That same Hierarchy ruled in the days of Jesus Christ. It, once again, became an official body within the nation of Israel when the Sanhedrin became a power that ruled over the land. {In October 2004 (Tishrei 5765), a group of rabbis representing varied Orthodox communities in Israel undertook a ceremony in Tiberias,[16] where the original Sanhedrin was disbanded, in which it claimed to re-establish the body according to the proposal of Maimonides and the Jewish legal rulings of Rabbi Yosef Karo. The controversial attempt has been subject to debate within different Jewish communities.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanhedrin This is whom will call out to Him and say, Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord. Gerlinda See: This Is So Good and Needs to Be Shared Regarding the differences between Jews and Israel, while God made many promises to Abraham, one being that all nations shall be blessed through Abraham, God also made other individual promises and prophecies to the individual twelve tribes of Israel. One of these promises include that the tribe of Judah would continue to be the administrators of the Mosaic laws until the Messiah returns. The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of people be. (Genesis 49:10) This specific prophecy included the continual teaching and administration of the laws He gave to Moses, which are now viewed by present day Jews as the only way of salvation. However, as the minister of circumcision (servant of the Jews) for the truth of God, Jesus came to confirm all the promises made unto the fathers, the patriarchs of Israel, the nation of promise, which included the fulfillment of the Law. (Matthew 5:17) In Romans 15:8, Paul is telling the Romans that Christ has become a servant of the Jews (those who rely on circumcision for salvation) on behalf of Gods truth, to confirm the promise made to Israels patriarchs, so that the Gentiles, all of those who are not of Israel, may glorify God for His mercy. It is written: Quote: Romans 15:9-12 (NIV) 9 and, moreover, that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy. As it is written: “Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles; I will sing the praises of your name.” 10 Again, it says, “Rejoice, you Gentiles, with his people.”[b 11 And again, “Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles; Let all the peoples extol him.” 12 And again, Isaiah says, “The Root of Jesse will spring up, One who will arise to rule over the nations; In him the Gentiles will hope.” In this group of scripture, we see the word Gentile and nations used interchangeably to describe those who are not of the circumcision (Jews who rely on this for salvation). The Bible clearly identifies between faithful Israel and Jews. The Jews are these from the tribe of Judah, the tribe that was chosen to keep and administer the Law. There are 12 tribes in the House of Israel, and only two of them (as well as the Levites) are Jewish! Therefore, those not of the Jewish faith of circumcision are all Gentiles, which obviously include all of these descendants from the other ten (scattered) tribes of Israel, as well. The other ten tribes lost their law giving and law abiding identity; therefore, the remaining tribes (Judah, Benjamin and the Levite priests) are the only ones who still abide by the Levitical laws given to Moses. However, theorists still insist on keeping alive a genetic nation they call Israel in their exegetical mythologies, failing to realize that all Israel is the faith-believing body of Christ. His ecclesia. The End Times Passover...pages 82-86 by Joe Ortiz The above is a brilliant Biblical explanation of this endless argument who is a Jew and who is not. Those that cannot accept that Israel is the ecclesia made up of the natural olive branch and the wild grafted-in branch have a lot of deep down study ahead of them.....if they want to know the truth. This study proves that there is no Dispensation period just for Gentiles since it is all designed by God . Gerlinda
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