*1)* Patriarch of Jerusalem -- The *Chair* of Saint James in - TopicsExpress



          

*1)* Patriarch of Jerusalem -- The *Chair* of Saint James in Jerusalem is recognized by most of the world in a politico-religious sense as falling to Nourhan Manougian, The Armenian Patriarch of Jerusalem. *2)* Patriarch of Antioch - multiple possibilities -- hugely contentious topic, but dont worry about it because Christians are dying (actually slaughtered) so theyre all getting along with each other -- but anyway, since you want a name: (I think) The *Chair* of Saint Peter in Antioch is recognized by most of the world in a politico-religious sense as falling to Mor Ignatius Aphrem II, Patriarch of the Syriac Orthodox Church. (Obviously HUGE numbers of people will also say Patriarch John X, and Im not calling that wrong, I just had to ultimately choose a name.) *3)* Pope and Patriarch of Alexandria & All Africa -- again, contentious topic, buy hey, either way hes got the same name. (Again, I think) the *Chair* of Saint Mark in Alexandria is recognized by most of the world in a politico-religious sense as falling to Pope Tawadros II, The Coptic Patriarch. *4)* Pope of Rome -- wow, if you live in 2014 and dont at least know the name... Anyway, (I know) the world universally recognizes The *Chair* of Saint Peter in Rome as falling to Francis, Pope of Rome. (with a few Latin-language emphasis groups and maybe the occasional anti-pope in France challenging or something?) *5)* Archbishop of Constantinople and Ecumenical Patriarch -- Its a title even the Pope seems to be okay with these days (but not so much Turkey...) -- The *Chair* of Saint Andrew is recognized by most of the world in a politico-religious sense as falling to Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople (yes, we still call it Constantinople, the Turks just call the apartments of the Great Church of Christ the Fanar). The above list was not composed in terms of rank or place of honor, but relates to how Christianity spread. Byzantium would likely have received the message before Rome, but took at least three centuries to actually become The Ecumenical Patriarchate. It is the ancient Apostolic See of The Apostle Andrew, but it is the youngest in terms of being a Patriarchate, while amassing amazing privileges when it finally reached that status. AND WHAT OF EPHESUS??!! (for those who dont know, thats currently Turkish territory: basically youre on the Aegean facing West towards the Islands and Greece, but very much Asia Minor, and so yeah, no...) And yes, what of the Assyrian Church of the East? What about Thomas and India? But also what about John, and what do Ephesus & Patmos mean for us? We speak of the horrible events in Iraq and Syria in todays world -- well, travel West, and see Ephesus, which used to be full of Christians. Not anymore. Christianity is down in the hundreds or even tens in all of Asia Minor. What lessons can we learn from that? I feel Ive been posting too much already in this group lately, and need to just let others speak for a while and get some more of those tasks I have for August accomplished. But I think this topic bears importance -- because, hey, Oriental Orthodox also call themselves Orthodox. So I think its all open topic stuff for this group.
Posted on: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:36:09 +0000

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