For all The Liberal Indians who have taken it upon themselves--the crusade to reform religions via THIS forum, by slamming it, and calling everyone who refused to do so, as apologists : by Puttezhath Sunil Menon HOPE YOU READ. //One of the points I made was also the timing, and what occasioned it. if Al Qaeda want this effect and this debate to take place now, are you all willing to become a willing part of their extended props by actually obliging like sheep. and what if this is a false flag operation? theres a former white house official, maybe you heard, who says this could be a CIA job. He adduces some excellent geopolitical reasons, and theres plenty solid evidence of them having actually done this sort of thing plenty times before. maybe its a theory. But do I or any of you, sitting in our little middle-class tenements, have ANY clue whether its true or not? the intended effect whether its al qaeda or CIA is precisely the same. the cornering of a community, from which one hopes to gain more recruits by victimisation in europe and the other hopes to build cases for strengthening the coalition of the willing. and our bright young atheists, has it struck you that you could be obliging unwittingly, being led by the nose by the US, which is the ultimate protector of the Saudi kingdom, into vilifying ordinary Muslims who only will become victims, never the Saudis. i hope the dark, very dark irony of where your predictable and skin-deep rationalism could be leading you, that it strikes you as well. its not very difficult to make out. None of this is to say there are no issues, whether in Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism and...why not...Atheism? its just that we should choose our time to do it, where it does not exacerbate but minimises conflict, and where everyone can go towards more sane living rather to an atmosphere of threat and dread and disorder. That responsibility is surely yours too. and you can take my word for it, if it counts for anÝthing in these quarters, that youre already doing more harm than good. Real, actual harm. both to your cause and to the cause of bringing sanity to things. i know you see me as a combatant rather than an interlocutor, its up to you to see if you think i have the best interest of things or not. i dont think anything but religion is a kosher or viable or desirable policy in the final analysis, it would be self-defeating and would block off a huge number of very necessary discussions, on the political and social and abstract theological grounds, but as I was saying yesterday, maybe if all of you are willing to revisit your slightly tiresome monochromatic and baiting/heckling/hectoring tactics, you would do your own cause some good. when clerics tell a girl to marry her dad-in-law, or when ahmaddiyas or christians get killed in Pak, believe you me, its the very same people who some of these have been baiting who will have the most sane, human, empathetic and politically courageous and necessary reaction. if everyone thinks its a smart idea to alienate them and bait them, i have to simply request for some honest introspection on your part. An a priori assumption of endorsement of violence is most unjustified, and the axiomatic theory that violence inevitably results from certain holy books is falsified by everyday reality. Religions are more than just theological doctrines, they are communities, cultures with centuries of sophistication with very robust traditions of internal dissent, they havent been sitting around stagnating waiting for 21st c mutant atheist cowboys to come and show them the light. its a most insulting presumption. already the world is befouled enough and brutalised enough by the bushes and blairs and our local mutant hindu ninja turtles crawling all over the place. its an abnormal situation. you are right, there is never a perfect time, its always difficult, but insisting on choosing this time, on an incident which may well have been motivated precisely to have these effects, its like the cat that wants to shut its eyes and drink it milk. i promise you a discussion at some point in the future, but with set parameters of discourse and sanity of tone and lack of malice from its participants as preconditions. what more can i say.//
Posted on: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 04:12:17 +0000
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