IT WOULD BE UNFAIR TO DENY MY DEAREST FOLLOWERS THESE UPDATES ON TRUE WORSHIP OF OUR ALMIGHTY FATHER : IN SPIRIT and IN TRUTH as HIS SON LAID DOWN AS THOSE HIS FATHER WANTED and STILL WANTS TO DATE.....ALL MEMBERS OF I S M ARE SUCH WORSHIPERS... Integrational Spiritan Movement... led by Rev. Prof. J, . J. Kenez A DETAILED STUDY OF JOHN CHAPTER 8 VERSES 30 TILL 47 My concern always had been to prove that the descendants of the Devil through his first born-CAIN- are more in number in this world than the progeny of ADAM through his first born-SETH From THE TREASURY OF SCRIPTURE KNOWLEDGE comes this research references YOU MUST STUDY on the true implications of Jesus words John 8:44 Joh 8:44 * are. Joh 8:38; 6:70; Ge 3:15; Mt 13:38; Ac 13:10; 1Jo 3:8-10,12 * He was. Ge 3:3-7; 1Ki 22:22; 1Ch 21:1; Jas 4:1-7; 1Pe 5:8; Re 2:10; 9:11 Re 13:6-8; 20:7-9 * and abode. 2Pe 2:4; Jude 1:6 * When. Ge 3:4,5; 2Ch 18:20-22; Job 1:11; 2:4-6; Ac 5:3; 13:10; 2Co 11:3 2Co 11:13-15; 2Th 2:9-11; Re 12:9; 13:14; 20:2,3; 21:8; 22:15 From The Peoples New Testament Commentary on Jesus the Christ: The Father hath not left me alone. The Father was with him. He was with him and in him. He was the brightness of the Fathers glory [Heb 1:3]. He did those things that please him, and God was with him. 30 As he spake these words , many believed on him . (KJV) 30 As he spoke thus, many believed in him. (RSV) Joh 7:31; 10:42; 11:45 ACC Barnes JFB MHCC PNTC RWP TFG TSK WBN Peoples New Testament Commentary: Many believed. That he was a divine teacher. 31 ¶ Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him , If ye continue in my word , then are ye my disciples indeed ; (KJV) 31 ¶ Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples, (RSV) GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB MHC PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: If ye continue in my word, then ye are my disciples indeed. They believed on him, but their faith was not yet made perfect by obedience. Hence he adds the condition of discipleship. Their belief must move them to accept his word and obey it. There is a condition, continue in my word; a promise, shall be my disciples. 32 And ye shall know the truth , and the truth shall make you free . (KJV) 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free. (RSV) Ro 6:14,18,22; 8:2; Jas 1:25; 2:12 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: And ye shall know the truth. Disciples are learners. Their object is to know the truth. The way to know the truth is to obey the truth. The truth shall make you free. The Gospel obeyed, frees--frees from the yoke of Satan, from spiritual task-masters, from fear, fills the soul with hope and the free spirit of a son who serves the Father from love. 33 They answered him , We be Abrahams seed , and were never in bondage to any man : how sayest thou , Ye shall be made free ? (KJV) 33 They answered him, We are descendants of Abraham, and have never been in bondage to any one. How is it that you say, You will be made free? (RSV) Le 25:42; Mt 3:9; Joh 8:39 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN PNTC RWP TSK WBN Peoples New Testament Commentary: We be Abrahams seed, and were never in bondage. They trusted in their blood, rather than in obedience to the God of Abraham. Their proud language was false. Their nation had been in bondage for over six hundred years to Babylon, to Persia, to Macedon, to Syria, to Rome. They were also in bondage to sin. 34 Jesus answered them , Verily , verily , I say unto you , Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin . (KJV) 34 Jesus answered them, Truly, truly, I say to you, every one who commits sin is a slave to sin. (RSV) Ro 6:16,20; 2Pe 2:19 ACC Barnes JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. According to his custom, Christ makes no direct argument in reply, but states a truth and leaves them to apply it. The sinner is the slave of sin. See Ro 7:9-24. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever : but the Son abideth ever . (KJV) 35 The slave does not continue in the house for ever; the son continues for ever. (RSV) Ga 4:30 ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: The servant abideth not in the house for ever. The servant has no claim to remain continually in the same family, but may be changed at will. The son can remain because he is a son. The Jews, servants of sin, would soon be expelled from the Lords house. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free , ye shall be free indeed . (KJV) 36 So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. (RSV) Ro 8:2; Ga 5:1 Barnes FBN JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. If you would be free indeed you must have the freedom that the Son bestows, and become children. In order to fully comprehend the figure, read Ga 4:19-21. 37 I know that ye are Abrahams seed ; but ye seek to kill me , because my word hath no place in you . (KJV) 37 I know that you are descendants of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. (RSV) Joh 7:19; 8:40 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN MHCC PNTC RWP TFG TSK WBN Peoples New Testament Commentary: I know that ye are Abrahams seed. According to the flesh, but not according to the spirit. Abraham had no such spirit as they. 38 ¶ I speak that which I have seen with my Father : and ye do that which ye have seen with your father . (KJV) 38 ¶ I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father. (RSV) Joh 3:32; 5:19,30; 14:10,24 ACC Barnes FBN JFB MHC PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: I speak that which I have seen with my Father. Jesus was the Son; he had dwelt in the Fathers house. They had the spirit of Satan, and hence were, spiritually, his children. 39 They answered and said unto him , Abraham is our father . Jesus saith unto them , If ye were Abrahams children , ye would do the works of Abraham . (KJV) 39 They answered him, Abraham is our father. Jesus said to them, If you were Abrahams children, you would do what Abraham did, (RSV) Mt 3:9; Joh 8:33; Ro 2:28; 9:7; Ga 3:7,29 ACC Barnes FBN JFB MHC RWP TFG TSK 40 But now ye seek to kill me , a man that hath told you the truth , which I have heard of God : this did not Abraham . (KJV) 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God; this is not what Abraham did. (RSV) Joh 8:26,37 Barnes JFB RWP TFG TSK 41 Ye do the deeds of your father . Then said they to him , We be not born of fornication ; we have one Father , even God . (KJV) 41 You do what your father did. They said to him, We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. (RSV) Isa 63:16; 64:8; Mal 1:6 ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN MHCC PNTC RWP TFG TSK WBN Peoples New Testament Commentary: Ye do the deeds of your father. Satan. 42 Jesus said unto them , If God were your Father , ye would love me : for I proceeded forth and came from God ; neither came I of myself , but he sent me . (KJV) 42 Jesus said to them, If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. (RSV) Joh 5:43; 7:28-29; 16:27; 17:8,25; 1Jo 5:1 ACC Barnes JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: If God were your Father, ye would love me. They made this claim (Joh 8:41). Their hatred of the Son was proof that they were not Gods children. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech ? even because ye cannot hear my word . (KJV) 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. (RSV) Joh 7:17 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: Ye cannot hear my word. Cannot receive it because Satan has your hearts, and is your father. 44 Ye are of your father the devil , and the lusts of your father ye will do . He was a murderer from the beginning , and abode not in the truth , because there is no truth in him . When he speaketh a lie , he speaketh of his own : for he is a liar , and the father of it . {of his own: or, from his own will or disposition} (KJV) 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your fathers desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. (RSV) Mt 13:38; 1Jo 3:8; Jude 1:6 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: Ye are of your father, the devil. There are two households: that of God, composed of his children; and that of the devil, composed of his children. All who hear the voice of Christ become Gods children by adoption (Ro 8:15-17), and all who refuse to hear him, do so because they belong to the devils household and hear his voice. They will do the lusts of their father. He was a murderer from the beginning. He caused the first murder, moves those who do murder, and those who seek to kill Christ are of his spirit. 45 And because I tell you the truth , ye believe me not . (KJV) 45 But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. (RSV) Barnes JFB JWN RWP TFG TSK WBN 46 ¶ Which of you convinceth me of sin ? And if I say the truth , why do ye not believe me ? (KJV) 46 ¶ Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? (RSV) GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: Which of you convinceth me of sin? He points to his sinless character as a proof that there can be no falsehood in his words. 47 He that is of God heareth Gods words : ye therefore hear them not , because ye are not of God . (KJV) 47 He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God. (RSV) Joh 10:26-27; 1Jo 4:6 ACC Barnes FBN JWN RWP TFG TSK 48 Then answered the Jews , and said unto him , Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan , and hast a devil ? (KJV) 48 The Jews answered him, Are we not right in saying that you are a Samaritan and have a demon? (RSV) Joh 7:20; 8:52; 10:20 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN MHC MHCC PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: Thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? They resort to the language of passion and vituperation. Of all men they hated the Samaritans most, and hence this charge. They next accuse him, not of having a devil, but of being possessed with a demon, or evil spirit. 49 Jesus answered , I have not a devil ; but I honour my Father , and ye do dishonour me . (KJV) 49 Jesus answered, I have not a demon; but I honor my Father, and you dishonor me. (RSV) ACC Barnes JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: I honour my Father. He passes by in silence their first charge; the second he shows cannot be true, for he honors his Father, which a demon could not do; and yet the Jews dishonored him, while he honored the Father. 50 And I seek not mine own glory : there is one that seeketh and judgeth . (KJV) 50 Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is One who seeks it and he will be the judge. (RSV) Joh 5:41; 7:18 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: I seek not mine own glory. He cared little therefore for their abuse, and sought not to defend himself. 51 ¶ Verily , verily , I say unto you , If a man keep my saying , he shall never see death . (KJV) 51 ¶ Truly, truly, I say to you, if any one keeps my word, he will never see death. (RSV) Joh 5:24; 11:26 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN MHC PNTC RWP TFG TSK WBN Peoples New Testament Commentary: If a man keep my word, he shall never see death. Here again is a condition and a promise. Notice (1) Its universal character: If any one, Jew or Gentile, male or female, bond or free. (2) The condition: Keep my words. By obedience we are not only freed, but enter into life. (3) [The promise:] Shall not see death. Death of the body is not reckoned death, but merely the gate through which the believer enters upon a more perfect life. The real death is that of the soul. 52 Then said the Jews unto him , Now we know that thou hast a devil . Abraham is dead , and the prophets ; and thou sayest , If a man keep my saying , he shall never taste of death . (KJV) 52 The Jews said to him, Now we know that you have a demon. Abraham died, as did the prophets; and you say, If any one keeps my word, he will never taste death. (RSV) Zec 1:5; Heb 11:13,15 GBN Barnes JFB MHC RWP TFG TSK 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham , which is dead ? and the prophets are dead : whom makest thou thyself ? (KJV) 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you claim to be? (RSV) Barnes PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: Art thou greater than our father Abraham? Their argument is: They that heard the word of God are dead, and shall they who have heard thee not die? Their question is asked in scorn. Compare Joh 4:12. 54 Jesus answered , If I honour myself , my honour is nothing : it is my Father that honoureth me ; of whom ye say , that he is your God : (KJV) 54 Jesus answered, If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing; it is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say that he is your God. (RSV) Joh 5:31,41; 16:14; 17:1; Ac 3:13 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN MHCC PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: If I honour myself, my honour is nothing. They had just asked: Whom makest thou thyself? [Joh 8:53]. The Father, who honoreth him, will settle that question by his resurrection from the dead and exaltation. 55 Yet ye have not known him ; but I know him : and if I should say , I know him not , I shall be a liar like unto you : but I know him , and keep his saying . (KJV) 55 But you have not known him; I know him. If I said, I do not know him, I should be a liar like you; but I do know him and I keep his word. (RSV) Joh 7:28-29 GBN Barnes JFB RWP TFG TSK 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day : and he saw it, and was glad . (KJV) 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he was to see my day; he saw it and was glad. (RSV) Lu 10:24; Heb 11:13 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK WBN Peoples New Testament Commentary: Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day . . . and was glad. Saw it in promise by prophetic vision; whether or not Abraham was greater [Joh 8:53], he rejoiced in the hope of the revelation of Christ. 57 Then said the Jews unto him , Thou art not yet fifty years old , and hast thou seen Abraham ? (KJV) 57 The Jews then said to him, You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham? (RSV) ACC Barnes JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK WBN Peoples New Testament Commentary: Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? It had been about two thousand years since the time of Abraham. Jesus did not say he had seen Abraham, but they pervert his words. 58 Jesus said unto them , Verily , verily , I say unto you , Before Abraham was , I am . (KJV) 58 Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am. (RSV) Ex 3:14; Isa 43:13; Joh 17:5,24; Col 1:17; Re 1:8 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JFB JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. A solemn and official declaration, preceded by Verily, verily [see PNTC for Joh 3:3]. The utterance is a remarkable one. It does not merely assert that he was before Abraham, but before Abraham was, I AM. It identifies with the I AM of the Old Testament. Divinity has no past tense, no future tense, but always the present. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him : but Jesus hid himself , and went out of the temple , going through the midst of them , and so passed by . (KJV) 59 So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple. (RSV) Lu 4:30; Joh 10:31,39; 11:8 GBN ACC Barnes FBN JWN PNTC RWP TFG TSK Peoples New Testament Commentary: They took up stones to cast at him. They regarded his language blasphemy. If he had been only a man it would have been. My dearly beloved, all the colourings were mine for emphasis. You are not a child of the Creator God just by regurgitating what most pastors repeat day-in day-out and you all begin to sound like a broken record! If you tell the undiluted truth all your life YOU ARE OF GOD thro Adam and Seth if otherwise YOU SPEAK THE NATIVE LANGUAGE OF SATAN … QED IT IS AS SIMPLE AS & THAT IS WHAT DR KENEZ FOUND OUT THEN READ THIS FROM ADAM CLARKE’S COMMENTARY John 8:44; Verse 44. Ye are of your father the devil] Ye are the seed of the old serpent. See ACC for Joh 8:37. The lusts of your father] Like father like son. What Satan desires, ye desire; because ye are filled with his nature. Awful state of unregenerate men! They have the nearest alliance to Satan; they partake of his nature and have in them the same principles and propensities which characterize the very nature and essence of the devil! Reader, canst thou rest in this state? Apply to God, through Christ, that thou mayest be born again. He was a murderer from the beginning] It was through him that Adam transgressed; in consequence of which death entered into the world, and slew him and all his posterity. This was the sentiment of the Jews themselves. In Sohar Kadash, the wicked are called, The children of the old serpent, who slew Adam and all his descendants. See Schoettgen. Abode not in the truth] He stood not in the truth-was once in a state of glorious felicity, but fell from it; and, being deprived of all good himself, he could not endure that others should enjoy any; therefore by his lies he deceived Eve, and brought her, her husband, and, through them, their posterity, into his own condemnation. He speaketh of his own] ek twn idiwn lalei, He speaketh of his own offspring, or, from his own disposition, for he is the father and fountain of all error and falsity; and all who are deceived by him, and partake of his disposition, falsity and cruelty, are his offspring, for he is a liar, and the father of it-kai o pathr autou-literally, his father also. There is considerable difficulty in this verse. The Cainites, and the Archontites, mentioned by Epiphanius, read it thus: Ye are the children of your father the devil, because he is a liar, and his father was a liar. He was a man-slayer, and he did not remain in the truth. When he speaketh, he speaketh a lie of his own, (progenitors understood,) because his father also was a liar. The consequences which the above heretics drew from this verse were the following. They said that the father of the Jews was a demon; that he also had a demon for his father; and that he had a demon for his father, &c. The Archontites maintained that Cain had a demon for his father, the spirit which our Lord speaks of here; and that the Jews proceeded from the race of Cain. Grotius, supposing that the devil who tempted Eve was not the prince of devils, but rather a subordinate one, seems to think he may be understood here, he is a liar, and his father also, which is the literal translation of the latter clause of the text, wv kai o pathr autou, as it has been read by many of the primitive fathers. Mr. Wakefield, by changing to, before qeudov, into tiv, gives the text the following translation:-The devil is your father, and ye willingly perform the lusts of your father. He was a man-slayer from the first, and continued not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When ANY ONE speaketh a lie, he speaketh according to his own kindred: for his father also is a liar. Our own translation, that refers pathr autou to qeudov, a lie, and not to qeusthv, a liar, is probably the most correct. Rev. Prof. J. J. Kenez Chairs the 50th anniversary of Chinua Achebe’s THINGS FALL APART
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