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If God be formless, this world created by Him should also be formless ... Do the Vedas and the Shastras harmonize with or contradict one another on the subject of creation? ... Was one man created in the beginning of Creation or more than one? . Chapter 8 The Creation (formation) , Sustenance and Dissolution of The Universe. It is perfectly certain that India never saw a more learned Sanskrit scholar, a deeper metaphysician, a more wonderful orator, and a more fearless denunciator of any evil, than Dayanand, since the time of Sankarcharya. 1. Has this universe proceeded from God or from something else? Back to contents A.-God is the efficient cause of this universe, but the material cause is prakriti - the primordial elementary matter. He who has created (formed is the correct translation for SRUSHTI) this multiform universe, and is the cause of its sustenance as well as dissolution, the Lord of the universe in whom the whole world exists, is sustained and then resolved into elementary condition, is the Supreme Spirit. Know Him, O man, to be your God and believe in no other as the Creator of the Universe. RIG VEDA 10: 126, 8. In the beginning the whole was enveloped in utter darkness. Nothing was discernible. It was like a dark night, Matter was in its very elementary form. It was like ether. The whole universe, completely overspread by darkness, was insignificantly small compared with the Infinite God who thereafter, by His omnipotence, evolved this cosmic world - the, effect - out of the elementary matter - the cause.* RIG VEDA 10: 129, 3 Love and worship that Supreme Spirit, O men, Who is the support of all the luminous bodies (such as the sun), the one Incomparable Lord of the present as It is remarkable that modern science is slowly but surely coming round to what the Vedas teach. The atomic theory is losing ground and the Vedic doctrine gaining ground day by day. Mark what one of the modern most scientists, M. Bernard Brunlhes says:- Matter which seems to give us the imaage of stability and repose only exists, then, by reason of the rotatory movement of its particles so that when atoms have radiated all their energy in the form of luminous, calorific, electric and other forms of vibrations, they return to the primitive ether. Rama Deva. PAGE 243 well as of the future worlds, Who existed even before the world came into being, and has created (FORMED) all things that exist in space between the earth and heaven.*RIG VEDA 10:121, 1. 3. How many entities are eternal or Beginingless? A.- Three - God, the soul, and the prakriti (matter). Q.What are your authorities for this statement? A.- Both God and the soul are eternal, they are alike in consciousness and such other attributes. They are associated together - God pervading the soul - and are mutual companions. The prakriti (matter), which is Likened to the trunk of a tree whose branches are the multiform universe which is resolved into tis elementary condition at the time of dissolution is also eternal. The natures, attributes and characters of these three are also eternal. Of the two - God and the soul - the latter alone reaps the fruits of this tree of the universe - good or evil - whilst the former does not. He is the All-glorious Being who shines within, without and all around. RIG VEDA I, 164, 20. The Great God - the King - revealed all kinds of knowledge to the human soul - His eternal subjects - through the Veda. YAJUR VEDA, 50, 8. The prakriti, the soul and God, all of them, are uncreated. They are the cause of the whole universe. They have no cause of the whole universe. They have no cause and have been existing eternally. The eternal soul enjoys the eternal matter and is wrapped up in it whilst God neither enjoys it, nor, is He wrapped up in it. SHWETA SHWATER UPNISHAD, 4: 5. The attributes of God and the soul have been described iin the last chapter. Here we shall treat of the properties of prakriti (matter). That condition of matter in which the intellect-promoting (satva - high), passion-exciting (rajas - medium) and stupidity producing (tamas - low)qualities are found combined in equal proportions is called prakriti. From prakriti emanated the principle of wisdom (Mahaatava), and from the latter proceeded the principle of Individuality (Ahakaara) from which emanated the five subtle entities and the ten principles of sensation and action, and the manas, i.e., the principle of attention. From the five subtle entities issued forth the five gross entities, such as solids, liquids, etc. These twenty-four entities and the purush, i.e., the spirit - human and Divine - form a group of twenty-five noumena. SANKYA SHASTRA,1: 61. Of all these twenty-four, the prakriti is uncreated, the principle of wisdom, the principle of Individuality, and the five subtle entities are the products of the prakriti and are in their turn the cause of the ten principles of sensation, and action and of the principle of attention. The purush - i.e., the spirit - is neither the cause (material) nor the effect of anything. 10. 10. Is God formless or embodied? Q - If God be formless, this world created by Him should also be formless, just as in the case of other living beings, such as men, - children have bodies like their parents. Had they been formless, their children would have been the same. A.- What a childish question! We have already stated that God is not the material cause of the universe. He is only its efficient cause. It is prakriti and paramanus - the premordial elementary matter and atoms, - which are less subtle than God, that are the material cause of the world. They are not altogether formless but are subtler than other material objects, while less subtle as compared to God. 11. If God be formless, this world created by Him should also be formless A.-No; because that which does not exist (in any form) cannot be called into existence. It is absolutely impossible. It is as much as impossible for an effect to be produced without its cause as the story of a man, who would brag in the following way, to be true. I saw a man and a woman being married whose mothers never bore any children. They had boys made of human horns, and wore garlands of ethereal flowers. They bathed in the water of mirage and lived in a town of angels where it rained without clouds, and cereals and vegetables grew without any soil, etc., or I had neither father nor mother and yet came into being. I have no tongue in my mouth and lo! I can speak. There was no snake in the hole and yet one came out of it. I was nowhere, nor were these people, and yet we are all here. Only lunatics can believe and say such things. God being Omnipotent can he not create matter and soul? Q - God being Omnipotent, He can also create prakriti - the primordial matter - and the soul. If He cannot, He cannot be called Omnipotent. A.- We have explained the meaning of the word Omnipotent before. But does Omnipotent mean one who can work even the impossibilities. If there be one who can do even such impossible things as the production of an effect without a cause, then can He make another God, Himself die, suffer pain, become dead and inert, inanimate, unjust, impure and immoral or not? Even God cannot change the natural properties of things as heat of the fire, Fluidity of liquids and inertness of earth, etc. His laws being true and perfect, He cannot alter them. Omnipotence, therefore, only means that He possesses the power of doing all His works without any help. 22. It was never created nor shall it ever perish. Q. This world has had no Creator, nor is there one at present, nor, shall there ever be one. It has been eternally existing as such. It was never created nor shall it ever perish. A.- No action or thing - which is the product of action - can ever come into existence without an agent. All objects to this world such as the earth, are subject to the processes of formation, that is, are the product of definite combination. They can never be eternal, because a thing which is the product of combination can never exist after its component parts come as under. If you do not believe it, take the hardest rock or a diamond or a piece of steel and smash it into pieces, melt or roast it and see for yourself if it is composed of separate particles, called molecules and atoms, or not. If it is, then surely a time will come when those molecules will come apart. REFER : aryasamajjamnagar.org/chaptereight.htm#9 beyondscience.in/2014/07/god-being-omnipotent-can-he-not-create_12.html
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