It disgusts me that people & the media are so focused on the nationalities of the victims of the Malaysian Airlines tragedy that happened yesterday. It doesnt matter where they were from. What matters is that they were people, and now theyre dead. This is another terrible example of the attitude of Western society. In the West a tragedy is only really a tragedy if our people were killed. Honestly I have no idea who shot down the plane, but I dont think it was shot down on purporse --its possible the Ukrainian govt or the rebels accidently shot it down thinking it was military transport vehicle. Both sides (Ukrainian gov & rebels) blame each other so I am going to post various sources that have the latest info since people have been asking for more -- evidence at the beginning & speculation at end (they are not my opinions but the website owners --personally, I think there should not be a rush to judgement & there should be more research & investigation but many people have been clamoring for more) Evidence: 1) In the 1st pic link , normal flight path (green & yellow arrow paths in pic) for airliners is flying far south of Donestk/Lugansk closer to Crimea & the Ukrainian gov shut down airspace over Donestk & Lugansk awhile ago due to the civil war yet the Ukrainian gov diverted & guided the Malaysian airliner from Crimea to over Donestk (red flight path arrow in pic) instead of normal flight path far south in Crimea (no storms in Crimea that day) --why? https://facebook/TruthfromUkraine First evidence in picture for this post, till 16th July 2014, Malaysian aircraft flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, did it near the Crimea, it can be seen on a special website. Watch map of fly for 15th July 2014 ru.flightaware/live/flight/KLM4103/history/20140715/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK Watch map of fly for 16th July 2014 ru.flightaware/live/flight/KLM4103/history/20140716/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK For 17th July ru.flightaware/live/flight/KLM4103/history/20140717/1000Z/EHAM/WMKKly 2) Ukraine gov has a history of shooting down airliners -it shot down a Siberian Airways airliner in 2001 full of Israelis flying from Israel to Russia & paid the families millions in restitution but always denying any guilt in the matter en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812 -- USA also shot down an Iranian airliner in 1988 & Russia a Korean airliner in 1983 Despite Ukrainian gov denials, its well-known fact that the Ukrainian gov has many Buk missile systems with a 22+ km range in its inventory inherited from the Soviet Union, many of which it deployed in Donestk - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system#Operators & video of Ukrainian gov moving Buk missile systems March 14, 2014 https://youtube/watch?v=nGkD0PWADBs&feature=youtu.be en.ria.ru/world/20140717/190988635.html -Ukrainian gov has said it would shoot down any Russian planes that it claims have been shooting down Ukrainian jets/planes but that the rebels claimed they shot down instead 3) The airliner was flying at 11 km altitude. The rebels captured a Buk launcher from a Ukrainian military base they captured in June but it lacks the radar & fire control trucks (Buk missile system is made up of 3 parts: radar, fire control, & launcher). Othewise, the rebels have shoulder-launched portable missiles which have a range of 4 km & Wasp vehicle-mounted systems with a 6 km range Unconfirmed: 1) Video uploaded by Ukrainian gov/secret service of supposed phone call of rebels discussing shootdown has a timestamp creation date of 1 day before the actual shoot down date of July 18 -false flag? slavyangrad.wordpress/2014/07/18/emerging-evidence-points-to-mh17-being-a-ukrainian-false-flag/ 2) from Spainish Kiev air traffic controller slavyangrad.wordpress/2014/07/18/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/ 3) Theres many supposed tweets (photoshopped or real?) on Twitter & social media supposedly of rebel leaders & the gov tweeting that they shot down an enemy plane these tweets (photoshopped or real) were tweeted before the airliner were shot down: Google Translate: https://translate.google/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcolonelcassad.livejournal%2F1676376.html&edit-text=&act=url kolomsky is going to surprise pororenshko: something is wrong with planes (Kolomsky is a anti-rebel billionaire oligarch allied with Kiev president Poronsenshko) https://pbs.twimg/media/BsxASgsIAAApjck.jpg soon above ukraine, will be shot a plane full of innocent euro tourists -this will give a reason for official invitation of NATO -I see this s003.radikal.ru/i204/1407/a1/541915fae314.png Motivation according to the site: The Ukrainian gov has been & is suffering severe defeats since July 14th, with many units routed or destroyed & encircled & wanted a ceasefire & get NATO/US involved on its side .. see latest battle reports here: former German NATO intel/tank officer moonofalabama.org/2014/07/more-sanctions-on-russia-after-ukrainian-forces-defeated-.html former NATO military intelligence analyst/major who worked at Pentagon & Russian hi-command vineyardsaker.blogspot/2014/07/igor-strelkov-and-militia-briefings_17.html == from another site: Second evidence, by Independent sources became known that Security Service of Ukraine made strange report in media, 30 min before the news of crash. In this report they told about appear in hands of Novorossia army powerful air defense system, as Buk-M. Forces of Novorossia captured military unit with air defense missile system Buk - M, but this system was disabled. It happened in end of June 2014. Representatives of Kiev junta reported about fact that Novorossia army cant to use this powerful complex, because it disabled. Also in the captured military unit wasnt special location station, which search targets in air, it is separate part of Buk- M complex. So, that Buk- M is just piece of metal. Third evidence, Kiev junta bring few complex Buk-M to area near Donetsk, it was documented by Russian intelligence. Forth, representatives of Kiev junta claimed NATO ground operation against Novorossia shortly time after air crash. No evidence about real guilty of this crash, but US puppets blamed Novorossia and Russia. Fifth, all global and local media began huge brainwashing campaign in first minutes after crash, there they blamed Novorossia and Russia only. So, this crash of passengers airplane was planned, it is false flag operation in order to involve EU/NATO to war against Novorossia. I want to remind that best part of Kiev junta troops were encircled near border with Russia and now Novorossia step by step wipe off Ukrainian fascists. == click dates on calender on right side for latest reports: July 16th battle report of catastophe for Kiev gov military- cassad-eng.livejournal/2014/07/16/ July 17th battle report cassad-eng.livejournal/2014/07/17/ July 15th cassad-eng.livejournal/25414.html -live phone to Ukrainian TV news from paniced Ukrainian soldier detailing massive defeat, from 800 down to 400 men, as machine gun fire & artillery is heard in background July 16th cassad-eng.livejournal/26540.html -another live phone call to Ukrainian TV news from another Ukrainian soldier in another area detailing massive defeat July 16th battle results cassad-eng.livejournal/26716.html -Donestk/Lugansk forces in red, Kiev junta forces in blue numbers
Posted on: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:10:52 +0000
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