RV/ GCR Intel & Rumors Update - 13th September 2014. (Posted & Compiled by Rique Seraphico). 01 - Mnt Goat Sat. Morning Post - “Could this be the final step?” 09/13/2014. UU9466 - “Could this be the final step?” by Mnt Goat Today’s News Today is Saturday 9/13 and so far this week we witnessed the announcement of the ”fully” formed government of Iraq. At least this is what we were told since in fact we know now that many positions were simply filled with proxy ministers so they could replace them later with the permanent ministers. They needed to do this to meet the constitutional deadline and for NATO and USA coalition to go ahead with the strategic plan to fight ISIS. Could this be why we have not yet see the currency reform project completed and their currency revaluation announced, as we were told would coincide with the announcement of their government ( which was announced on last Tuesday) ? So today out pops news from Iraq - the MP for the rule of law that Huda Carpets announces ministries (Defense, Interior, and water resources, and the Displacement and Migration, women) will be ready to vote at a meeting next Tuesday” to meet the 7 day required timeline. Note that the Union of Iraqi forces sent its candidates for the Ministry of Defense and submitted two names to the Prime Minister, Jaber al-Jabri and Khalid al-Obeidi, that Abadi will choose one of them to take over the Ministry of Defense. Summary So today’s news is all very good news again. I just wanted to drop in with this very quick news letter to let everyone know Iraq is still very much on track to see the final group of ministers get voted on this coming Tuesday 9/16. The controversial Defense and Interior ministers along with the other couple ministers should all be seated at this time. We anxiously await ! After this is completed we will see what impact this has on the RV process. We are still being told they do plan to finally roll out the revalued rate to the international community at this time. We shall see. I will tell you I have strong evidence that there was a planned timeline this week to RV their currency but there was a hold on it due to the lack of mainly a permanent defense minister being seated. Seems they do need this “fully” formed government in reality and not just an announcement…..lol…. However if this RV does not happen with days if not hours after these final ministers are seated do not get disappointed. It may only be that they are still requiring more security to be put in place to protect Iraqi borders and provinces. There may also be an issue of implementation of many of the delayed economic reforms. Investors will require this since they need to feel assured that their investment is protected and Iraq is no longer a crazy wild west spectacle but instead a secured nation with a functional government. This is even more especially true after this crazy ride they are now on with DAASH and ISIS attacks. Be patient. It is all looking very good. Then when can we expect the RV? All I will say is what I have been saying all along we wait for a formal (global) announcement to the public that the Iraq government is now fully formed and seated. Many of you asked me if a formal, public announcement is necessary and the answer is a big fat YES. I want to emphasize once again this final announcement of the IQD going international will not happen until the USA feels the Iraq government is stable, non-sectarian and is a functional government. This is has been the plan all along. They may have wavered a bit on how the plan was implemented but the overall plan guidelines have not changed. Peace and Luv To Ya All, Mnt Goat ______________________________ 02 - Exogen: American Banks Set To Be Choked By New Regulations 09/12/2014 at 7:32pm. The largest banks in the US – JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM), Bank of America Corp (BAC), Citigroup Inc (coffee), and Wells Fargo & Co (WFC) – find themselves in the line of fire, as the Federal Reserve and US Senators push for further regulations. The banks will be subjected to regulations that are tougher than the Basel III requirements for capital adequacy and liquidity. .... Fed Governor, Daniel Tarullo, said that the Federal Reserve is planning to implement liquidity requirements that will be more onerous than the Basel III requirements. This regulation will protect the systemically important banks in the event of an economic shock. Investors finally responded to the news yesterday, as the share prices of Bank of America, Goldman Sachs Group Inc (GS), JPMorgan, Citigroup, and Morgan Stanley (MS) all fell. Investors fear that the new regulations will result in a declining return on equity due to the enforcement of a higher capital surcharge. The biggest losers on the imposition of a higher capital surcharge will be the big banks. Lawmakers made clear distinctions between big banks that are considered too big to fail and other financial firms at the Senate Banking Committee hearing yesterday. A higher capital surcharge is the next step in the measures taken to reduce the risk of big financial institutions. According to the new rules, banks will be required to hold higher portions of safe and liquid assets to aid their operations in the short-term, in case of a potential credit crunch. American banks, which rely heavily on volatile short term-sources of funding such as overnight loans, will be penalized by the Federal Reserve. The Fed had earlier made it mandatory for banks to hold ultra-safe assets that can instantly be sold for funds in times of financial stress. As banks start to acquire more ultra-safe assets, such as Treasurys, their returns are expected to slide further, as interest rates are already at an all-time low. JPMorgan – the largest bank in the US by total assets – had a return on tangible equity slightly below 10 percent, whereas Goldman Sachs had a return on tangible equity of around 11%, as per their last quarterly filings. However, if the Federal Reserve imposes a regulatory system similar to that in the UK, the banks’ return on tangible equity could fall drastically. Currently, all the big banks in the US have their capital ratios above the threshold levels of 8% and 9.5%. However, banks on the other side of the Atlantic maintain much higher capital ratios – usually more than 10 percent. Due to higher capital ratio requirements in the UK, the return on tangible equity for Barclays PLC (ADR) (BCS) was only 2%. The capital surcharge which the Federal Reserve will impose on the banks will increase the minimum level of high quality assets that big banks are required to hold. American banks that are considered too big to fail will have to increase their ultra-safe high quality capital assets by 1-2.5 percentage points. The exact increase in high quality capital will be calculated according to the relative riskiness of a bank. When the surcharge was proposed, banks all over the world initially railed against it, calling it unnecessary as it will reduce their capabilities to lend. It is expected that banks in the US will argue a similar case. Link: bidnessetc/25392-american-banks-set-to-be-choked-by-new-regulations/ It is what has been NEEDED!!! Springs Its about time. ______________________________ 03 - Millionday Friday Roundtable Part 1 & 2. 09/12/2014. Part 1: Welcome to dinarupdates for Roundtable with Millionday! millionday] OK HERE WE GO THIS WAS SENT TO ME [millionday] Iraqi Prime Minister, on Friday, French President apologized for attending a conference in Paris next week to discuss the confrontation Alazhab in the region. Haidar al-Abadi, in a press conference with Francois Hollande, said he could not attend the Paris conference to provide concern and Minister of Defense and Interior to the Iraqi parliament for Mnhmha confidence. [millionday] The Abadi, pledged at the meeting to give confidence to the new government, to provide the names and defense and interior ministers to parliament after a week. ~~~ Abadi added, that the President of the Republic Fuad Masum, Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, would represent Iraq at the conference. [millionday] SO AS WE SEE -- ABADI IS SO DEDICATED THAT HE IS STAYING HOME TO GET THE MINISTERS IN PLACE -- DEFENSE AND INTERIOR [millionday] SOUNDS GOOD TO ME BRB WITH MORE millionday] HERE WE GO -- The head of the Iraqi parliament, Saleem al-Jubouri that the return of Iraq to the Arab incubator «priority will help the government in their investigation». The newspaper said in a dialogue «life» London it to be published in the coming days, that the war on al «Daash» should be «subject to strategies beyond military action». Jubouri said that «Iraq need to overcome the ravages of the previous stage in its relationship with its Arab neighbors, and the price of initiatives Saudi Arabia in support of the government, and invited to attend a conference of Jeddah to discuss the war on terrorism, and added that« this war strategies require extensive, including a military solution, which we must not inflict harm on civilians, and to support the population in resistance «Daash», and to save their children from the clutches of this organization, in addition to the normal procedures for fighting intellectual ». [millionday] NOTE -- IRAQ IS BEING REFERRED TO AS RETURNING TO THE ARAB WORLD ---- NEXT WOULD BE THE OPEN IRAQ AS NOT AN IDEA BUT AS A WAY OF BUSINESS AND ACCEPTANCE [millionday] He said al-Jubouri national reconciliation in Iraq a priority for all political parties. He said that «dedication needed to work programs involving everyone», and pointed out that «the formation of the National Guard in the provinces achieves several benefits, it eliminates the role of the militias, and can be sons of the defense of their land, and end the terrorist groups», he said, that «there are complications and difficulties in establishing these forces, It takes time. But we are moving in the right direction ». [millionday] SO IRAQ IS PLANNING ON INCLUSION OF THE GROUPS THAT ARE NOT TERRORISTIC BUT WITH AN AGENDA FOR IRAQ – THEY WILL BE BRINGING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD AS PART OF THE SOLUTION -- A NEW SERVICE SECTION OF IRAQ`S MILITARY millionday] FORMATION -- GREAT IDEA IMO BRB WITH MORE [millionday] SO THIS SHOWS SUPPORT IN OUR HELP [millionday] Deputy Prime Minister, Hoshyar Zebari, said Friday that the new strategy to the American President Barack Obama a wise and balanced and it will be a catalyst in the fight against Daash and eliminate it. Zebari said in an interview televised pursued obelisk, that the elimination of the Islamic state is directly dependent on the local forces, especially the peshmerga and Iraqi forces and local forces on the ground. He added that he must stop supporting terrorist financing armed groups and to prevent the flow and infiltration across the border, noting that the new strategy to the American President Barack Obama a wise and balanced and it will be a factor in the fight against Assistant Daash and eliminate it. Zebari stressed that the Iraqi forces will be active in the next phase in the fight against the organization Daash. [millionday] SO AS WE SEE --- IRAQ IS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HELP AND AS WE SEE HERE -- A PLAN -- [millionday] OF COURSE OBVIOUSLY THE PLAN WAS LACKING SMILE BRB WITH MORE [awesomedtl] Million did u say Tuesday...... That they ACTUALLY PASSED the economic and monetary reforms!?? Now yet again we haveta wait for them to be implemented!? [millionday] HERE WE GO LETS LOOK AT THIS MORE CAREFULLY [millionday] I SAID THE LAWS AND THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE REFORMS THAT WERE PASSED awesomedtl] So what does that mean?? [millionday] THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS INCLUDE ECONOMIC REFORM PLANS AND ADMINISTRATIVE ECT -- REMEMBER THAT THEY PASSED WHAT THE PROGRAMS WERE FOR EACH GOVERNMENT [millionday] EVERYHTING WILL ONLY BE EFFECTIVE IF IT IS ACTIVATED ALL AT ONCE -- [awesomedtl] Hmmmm ok thank u [millionday] LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE millionday] LETS SAY THERE IS A LAW THAT ALLOWS CITIZENS TO DRIVE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD -- LETS SAY THAT THE SIGNS FOR TRAFFIC ARE BEING PRINTED AND ARE NOW DONE BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PUT IN PLACE YET ------ THE LAW TO DRIVE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD IS NOT ABLE TO BE ACTIVATED UNTIL THE SIGNS ARE IN PLACE BECAUSE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT THEM ----- SO THEY WILL ACTIVATE IT AT THE SAME TIME THE SIGNS ARE LAUNCHED TO BE PUT IN PLACE millionday] THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON HERE --- WHEN WILL IT BE ? --- HOW ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE IT GO SMOOTHLY? AND ARE THERE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PLACE THE SIGNS AND HAVE THE DRIVERS BEEN TRAINED ENOUGH ? -- NO ONE KNOWS YET -- LOL [awesomedtl] So did they say they will be implementing them all soon!?? implants] awesomedtl they said NOW [awesomedtl] Jim seriously!? [Smokey Mtn. Dinar] jimplants NOW works for me! [jimplants] yes milly had that 2 nights ago [hstrymknwmn] I like now and the meaning of now!! lol [rudie] Now is good for me!! [graylnjo] Their NOW must be different than our NOW !!!! lol lol [dovi] jimplants youre a doll [millionday] YES THEY ARE STATING THAT THIS IS ALL COMING WITH THIS NEW GOVERNMENT SO THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY FINISHING UP LAST MINUTE THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE STATED IN THE PRESS THAT THEY ARE ACTIVELY DOING THIS RIGHT NOW --- IMPLEMENTING THE REFORMS COMPLETELY millionday] SO ONE THING THAT I FIND INTERESTING IS IN THIS REPORT -- HERE WE GO [millionday] Central Bank of Iraq, on Thursday, announced the launch of the new paper from a class of ten thousand dinars for trading on the markets of Iraq, stressing that the citizen can be easily obtained. He said the CBI said in a statement received (range Press), a copy of which, The new paper from a class of ten thousand dinars today introduced formally to trade in the local markets, noting that the new paper will not cancel the work of the paper from the category of ten thousand old and will continue to trade naturally. The statement said that the citizen able to get the class with the new format with ease and no limit on them. [millionday] NOTE -- THE CITIZEN THAT WANTS TO USE THEM IN THE FUTURE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEM -- THEY INTEND TO KEEP THEM AS THE HIGHEST DENOM FOR THE TIME BEING – IF THEY ARE NOT NEEDED IN THE FUTURE THEY WILL NATURALLY WORK THEIR WAY OUT OF THE CIRCULATED TENDER [millionday] The Iraqi Central Bank announced last August that the end of last month will see the launch coin ten thousand dinars Bhltha new, and among the old paper of class ten thousand will not be withdrawn from Iraqi markets, confirmed that groups other than the currency of Iraq will be put forms new successively until the end of this year. He said the bank in its previous statement that the new paper bore some changes, including changing the image of the Arab world, Al-Hassan Ibn al-Haytham to the Freedom Monument, has also been modified dates Islamic and Gregorian to 2014 --1,435 e, as well as that the new paper will carry the signature of the governor of the Iraqi Central Bank and the Agency Abdul Basit Turkish happy. [millionday] The paper contains a new class of ten thousand dinars on the thread to ensure the buckle in the middle contains the effects Animations changes color from gold to green when the note is tilted, and wrote the phrase (CBI), has also been marked as advanced security known as (transparent window) in right corner upper face of the paper showing a picture of the minaret Helicobacter when placed on a white background as it appears to the sum of (10000) when placed on a dark background, as the paper contains structures against attempts at counterfeiting cloning, and there is a marker present in the paper, especially for the Blind which is about two lines horizontal straight on the left side of the face sheet. [millionday] SO AS WE SEE THEY ARE TRYING OUT THE PLAN OF EXCHANGE TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY HOLES IN THE STEPS AND THEY ALSO HAVE MADE IT CLEAR OF ALL SECURITY FEATURES --- [millionday] VERY INTERESTING RIGHT NOW ---- SMILE [millionday] BRB WITH MORE [Holly1] GM Millionday . I have a remark from a Iraq person regarding this . it was in a comment box after the Article . if you would like to see ? [joekid] Why release 10,000 k note prior to any major change in exchange rate? I understand that its to prevent counterfeiting, but they are leaving the old notes out per the article? I am trying to put some dinar glasses on to understand but see no advantage for an imminent RV? I also understand that these were printed the same time the new 25,000 k note were. [DinarGroupie] joekid BGG said last night they are to encourage the bringing in of these notes before the RV and to prevent Iran from counterfeiting them. awesomedtl] It seems like they give them the heads up by releasing them sooner [Stash] Holly1 I would [DinarGroupie] The Iranians are master counterfeiters, but they may not be able to with these notes. [joekid] DinarGroupie, but with the old notes out they will still have to honor the counterfeit one? [Smokey Mtn. Dinar] Plus isnt Iraq going to mostly deal with money by using cards? [dovi] Holly1 I would to [DinarGroupie] Plus, it is what the CBI does from time to time, replacing old worn out notes. [quicktolegit96] yes electronic [slh5282] Just like in the US now some of the notes are not green any longer but have a blue tone to them [awesomedtl] They have constant il put new notes into circulation over the years with no significant chamge DinarGroupie] joekid I dont know, but I think there are a lot of old ones in good condition to fake Holly1] (1) Name: Mustafa Jawad transmission date: 9/12/2014 11:32:28 AM Trying to go down in history put his signature on the category of the ten thousand dinars, but it will be a reminder to all Iraqis that in the era of Mr. Abdul Basit Turki lost citizens and their deposits in private banks, a refraction of a great private sector banks as the defense of the Central for owners and leaving depositors are also what will be remembered Iraqis whenever looking at signing Mr. Turki said the weakness of the central bank and its control is the first reason for this disaster Add your comment [millionday] THAT IS THE COMMENT LEFT BY A CITIZEN -- YOU ARE ABLE WITH THAT SITE TO ADD WHATEVER YOU WANT AND THAT IS HIS OPINION [millionday] SMILE rudie] millionday millionday Did you see joekids ??? [millionday] DONT WIRRY IT IS NOT NEWS -- JUST A COMMENT [millionday] NO -- COULD YOU REPOST PLEASE [rudie] millionday joekid] Why release 10,000 k note prior to any major change in exchange rate? I understand that its to prevent counterfeiting, but they are leaving the old notes out per the article? I am trying to put some dinar glasses on to understand but see no advantage for an imminent RV? I also understand that these were printed the same time the new 25,000 k note were. [Holly1] millionday yes just a comment and I made that clear lol [millionday] NO THE 25000 NOTES WERE NOT REPRINTED -- THE ORIGINAL PLAN WHEN IT WAS RELEASED ABOUT THE 10,000 NOTE BEING RELEASED DESCRIBED THE RELEASE AS BEING FOR SOME OTHER STRATEGIC REASONS AND NOT FOR THE STREETS BUT FOR OTHER REASONS [Rick1] rudie.... If they are doing this on the 10K notes and it needs to be done, than why arent they doing the 25K notes also? [awesomedtl] lets hope so cuz in the past we would get excited over a release in turn it had no relation to the rv [jtank] if to RV what about smalls [rudie] Rick1 joekids comments not mine. And I dont know. lol [millionday] THEY DID NOT STATE WHAT THEY WOULD BE USING THEM FOR BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR THE MARKET DUE TO THE MAJOR EXPENSE OF REPRINTING – THEY WOULD NOT WANT CHANGE GIVEN FROM A 10,000 DINAR NOTE – IT IS JUST LIKE US HAVING THE 1,000 NOTE AS WELL -- WE DONT USE THEM ON THE STREETS BUT WE HAVE THEM IN THIS SERIES WE HAVE IN THE US DOLLAR [millionday] HOLD ON ONE SEC -- BRB WITH SOME MORE PROOF ON THIS ISSUE [millionday] LET ME HAVE THE FLOOR -- I AM GOING TO BRING A COUPLE ITEMS FOR US [millionday] Did the Treasury Department ever produce a $1 million currency note? I have one that I want to know about. We receive many inquiries asking if the Treasury Department ever produced a $1 million currency note. People have sent in copies of these notes. We have found that they are nonnegotiable platinum certificates known as a One Million Dollar Special Issue. These notes were from a special limited copyrighted art series originally sold by a Canadian firm for $1.00 each as a collectible item. They are not official United States currency notes manufactured by our Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP). As such, they are not redeemable by the Department of the Treasury [millionday] NOTE - THIS IS ABOUT THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR NOTE [millionday] HERE WE GO What was the largest currency denomination ever produced? The largest denomination of currency ever printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) was the $100,000 Series 1934 Gold Certificate featuring the portrait of President Wilson. These notes were printed from December 18, 1934 through January 9, 1935 and were issued by the Treasurer of the United States to Federal Reserve Banks only against an equal amount of gold bullion held by the Treasury Department. The notes were used only for official transactions between Federal Reserve Banks and were not circulated among the general public. millionday] NOTE -- NOTICE ONLY AGAINST THE EQUAL AMOUNT OF GOLD BULLION --- SOUNDS FAMILIAR WITH SOME TOPICS WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING [millionday] NOTE -- I HAVE ONE MORE millionday] NOTE -- NOW NOTICE THE DATE AND THINK ABOUT THE PRICES DURING THAT TIME AND AGAIN ASK YOURSELF -- WHY WOULD THEY PRINT THESE DENOMS? [millionday] What denominations of currency notes is the Treasury Department no longer printing? On July 14, 1969, David M. Kennedy, the 60th Secretary of the Treasury, and officials at the Federal Reserve Board announced that they would immediately stop distributing currency in denominations of $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000. Production of these denominations stopped during World War II. Their main purpose was for bank transfer payments. With the arrival of more secure transfer technologies, however, they were no longer needed for that purpose. While these notes are legal tender and may still be found in circulation today, the Federal Reserve Banks remove them from circulation and destroy them as they are received. [millionday] NOW UNDERSTAND THAT THE IRAQI 10,000 DINAR WAS DESCRIBED AS BEING FOR BANK TRANSFER PAYMENTS -- angus] so it will be the same for the $25,000 note also? [slh5282] Millionday, wasnt the 25000 note going to be used for the same thing? [slh5282] angus, thinking alike [10x] excellent comparison millionday [millionday] SO EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT THE HIGHEST PAID ECONOMICS OR CURRENCY TENDER SPECIALIST -- WE CAN SEE THAT IT IS NOT A SHOCKER AND AS A MATTER OF FACT -- IS COMMON AND WOULD BE EXPECTED IN THIS TIME OF DENOMINATION CHANGE FOR IRAQI DINARS. ______________________ Part 2: Millionday Roundtable 9/12/14 Part 2 [jtank] what about electronic transfers? [millionday] NO THEY HAVE NOT REPRINTED THE 25,000 DINAR BUT DID REPRINT THE US DOLLAR IN THAT DENOMINATION WHEN CANDY WAS A PENNY millionday] THEY ARE PREPARED FOR ELECTRONIC TRANSFERS AT THIS TIME BUT I WOULD LAY A BET THAT ALL IRAQIS DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND HOW TO DO THEM – THEY MAY EVEN BE REFUSING TO TRUST ELECTRONIC TRANSFERS ALL TOGETHER ~~~ [slh5282] I dont remember that, when was that, candy being a penny? lol OOTW] Hi md - great information from you - ty - im wondering if for now the language law is on the shelf? As when you run a search in the gazette with the search term in force the language law is listed without this association - so its not in force according to the gazette [millionday] I HEARD ABOUT IT ON THE INTERNET LOL [millionday] OOTW THE LANGUAGE LAW ? [OOTW] Yes the language law states clearly that the currency is to have the kurdish language on it [DinarGroupie] I am curious to know if this answer about the new 10k notes satisfies joekid or not [OOTW] So i wondered what the connection is if any with the release of these 10k notes [millionday] WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE LANGUAGE LAW ? -- THE LAW OF COMMUNICATION OR ARE WE DISCUSSING THE CURRENCY STILL? [joekid] Dinar groupie no [OOTW] The currency OOTW] Article 8 and 18 of the language law says that currency is to contain the kurdish language [OOTW] So now we have these new notes being released [millionday] OOTW YES THE CURRENCY IS DESIGNED WITH THE KURDISH LANGUAGE ON IT -- IT IS THE AGREEMENT OF DESIGN -- THE FORMAL NATIONAL CURRENCY DESIGN [OOTW] And from what i can see, they do not have kurdish on them [OOTW] Ok thanks its just that i have not seen any of the articles on this state that the 10k notes contain kurdish language on them [OOTW] Sorry i absolutely do not mean to throw a wrench into the discussion [millionday] YW ALL THE TIME HUN -- GOOD TO SEE YA [DinarGroupie] Millionday your explanation doesnt really satisfy joekid about the new 10k notes. I think he fears the notes are a sign the RV is far from ready, if I read him right. [millionday] THE CURRENCY DESIGN HAS THE KURDISH LANGUAGE ON THEM -- THE ENTIRE SERIES joekid] Dinar groupie those are not my thoughts, but the more there is in circulation the lower the rate will have to be. [DinarGroupie] Ah, okay sorry [millionday] IT IS NOT A SIGN THAT THE REVALUE OF THE DINAR IS FAR AWAY AT ALL – IN FACT IT SHOWS THE OPPOSITE -- WHEN THE CURRENCY CHANGE PLAN WAS PRINTED AND RELEASED IT BEGAN WITH THE EXCHANGE OF THE 10,000 NOTE [jtank] could the 10k notes telling us they are going to float from maybe 10 cents [millionday] DinarGroupie PPSSSSTT -- THERE IT IS -- LOL [DinarGroupie] Md what about lowering the rate of the RV? More notes out equals lower rate? [awesomedtl] millionday lol lol [jtank] lol [pinkadonai1] millionday you are soooo cute! [disciple7] How could iraq conduct business with a float? [DinarGroupie] MD lol [millionday] IT HAS NO BEARING AT ALL HOW THE ISX IS GOING TO SELL THE CURRENCY ON THE MARKET AND MARKET THE DINAR [awesomedtl] DinarGroupie I wouldnt care if it started off low cuz we know the market would drive it up fast [millionday] DinarGroupie THE AMOUNT OF CURRENCY OUT IS A TOOL THAT IS USED TO AFFECT INFLATION [sczin11] Disciple, BINGO [DinarGroupie] Md it wont affect the RV rate negatively? [millionday] DinarGroupie NO THAT IS NOT PART OF THE CALCULATION – IT ONLY AFFECTS THE NEEDS AND THE PRICE OF PRINT AND ALSO THE INFLATION OF THE COUNTRY -- THE AMOUNT OF BILLS DOES NOT AFFECT THE RATE OF THE DINAR IN ANY WAY AT ALL [slh5282] If it is a float, then the change in the value would be so often and they would have to change the value in the system every few hours or minutes. How could they not cause a complete halt in the economy or purchasing by doing so? [DinarGroupie] Ty MD on behalf of joekid and me! lol millionday] NO IF IT IS A FLOAT IT DOESNT CAUSE THEM TO CHANGE IT EVERY FEW HOURS [millionday] OK LET ME HAVE THE FLOOR [millionday] DEFINITION OF FLOATING EXCHANGE RATE A countrys exchange rate regime where its currency is set by the foreign-exchange market through supply and demand for that particular currency relative to other currencies. Thus, floating exchange rates change freely and are determined by trading in the forex market. This is in contrast to a fixed exchange rate regime [millionday] THIS IS WHAT THE CURRENCY IS DRIVEN BY -- SUPPLY AND DEMAND -- THE CURRENCY FLOATS FREELY -- [millionday] FLOATING EXCHANGE RATE In some instances, if a currency value moves in any one direction at a rapid and sustained rate, central banks intervene by buying and selling its own currency reserves (i.e. Federal Reserve in the U.S.) in the foreign-exchange market in order to stabilize the local currency. However, central banks are reluctant to intervene, unless absolutely necessary, in a floating regime. [millionday] NOTE -- THE AUCTIONS COULD BE USED TO MAINTAIN A HUGE CHANGE IN THE RATE AT FIRST -- HOWEVER IT IS THE CHOICE OF CBI millionday] GOLD STANDARD SYSTEM [millionday] The creation of the gold standard monetary system in 1875 marks one of the most important events in the history of the forex market. Before the gold standard was implemented, countries would commonly use gold and silver as means of international payment. The main issue with using gold and silver for payment is that their value is affected by external supply and demand. For example, the discovery of a new gold mine would drive gold prices down. millionday] The underlying idea behind the gold standard was that governments guaranteed the conversion of currency into a specific amount of gold, and vice versa. In other words, a currency would be backed by gold. Obviously, governments needed a fairly substantial gold reserve in order to meet the demand for currency exchanges. During the late nineteenth century, all of the major economic countries had defined an amount of currency to an ounce of gold. Over time, the difference in price of an ounce of gold between two currencies became the exchange rate for those two currencies. This represented the first standardized means of currency exchange in history. millionday] The gold standard eventually broke down during the beginning of World War I. Due to the political tension with Germany, the major European powers felt a need to complete large military projects. The financial burden of these projects was so substantial that there was not enough gold at the time to exchange for all the excess currency that the governments were printing off. Although the gold standard would make a small comeback during the inter-war years, most countries had dropped it again by the onset of World War II. However, gold never ceased being the ultimate form of monetary value. [millionday] OK SO LET ME EXPLAIN -- [millionday] DUE TO THE LACK OF ENOUGH GOLD TO BACK ALL CURRENCY AS TIME WENT ON AND THE VALUES BECAME MUCH MORE -- THE BACKING CHANGED OVER TIME – BUT GOLD IS STILL USED SOME --- IRAQ HAS 90 TUNS ---- [millionday] THEY HAVE IT USE WITH RESERVE CURRENCY AND ALSO OIL -- THE CALCULATIONS HAVE CHANGED AS WELL COMPARED TO HOW IT WAS DONE IN THE PAST [millionday] WE CAN EXPECT THAT THE RATE OF THE DINAR WILL RAISE VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE IT IS A NEW MARKET AND ALSO IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT WAS NOT EFFECTED BY THE RECESSION SO THE INVESTMENT IN THE COUNTRY IS SMART -- AND THE EXPANSION INTO IRAQ BY MANY COMPAMIES MAKES SENSE DUE TO THE LACK OF EVERYTHNG AND THE NEED OF THE NATION – ALSO THE NEW STOCK MARKET IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL COUNTRIES ---- [millionday] WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN JUST THE CURRENCY BUT KNOW THIS millionday] MANY INVESTORS ARE VERY INTERESTED IN ITS GROWTH , LABOR MARKET, AND ALSO THE OPENING OF THE ISX AND ESX ---- [millionday] SO KNOW THE WAY THE CURRENCY HITS THE MARKET (FOREX) -- ONLY MATTERS TO THOSE LONG TERM INVESTORS – THE DAY YOU LOCK IN YOUR EXCHANGE RATE FOR EXCHANGE OF THE DINAR IN THE CURRENCY SIDE OF THE MARKET -- YOU WILL ONLY GET ONE RATE -- IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW THEY LEAVE IT IN THE MARKET [millionday] THE SHORT TERM OR EVEN LONG TERM RAISE IN ITS VALUE DOES NOT MATTER WHEN YOU ARE INVESTED IN THE CURRENCY -- IT WILL BE HERE ONE MINUTE AND GONE THE NEXT [millionday] IF YOU PLAN ON INVESTING IN THEIR STOCK MARKET OR EVEN BUSINESS THERE FOR YOUR SELF -- THAT WILL BE A DIFFFERENT TYPE OF RESEARCH AND ALSO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INVESTING -- THIS WILL CREATE A NEED FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL TO CONSULT WITH millionday] SO THE QUESTION OF HOW IT WILL COME OUT -- FLOAT/FIXED/ECT ----- DOES NOT MATTER HERE SMILE END OF COMMENTS [DinarGroupie] Some argue that they must float because the IMF are involved, and the IMF always floats it up. Iraq supposedly signed an article or agreement with IMF that says they will float. What say you? As I understand it, this is one of the researchers main arguments. [millionday] I HAVE SEEN THAT STATEMENT AS WELL BUT HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY PROOF OF THE IMF DOCUMENT STATING THEY PROMISE TO FLOAT [ernier] Information conveyed, recommendations made, and opinions stated (Content) on this site are meant to provide information in regard to the subject matter covered. The Content presented is, on the date presented, believed to be an accurate portrayal of the relevant facts, and is an analysis of those facts. The Content is provided solely for informational purposes, and is not to be construed as an offer to buy or sell (or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell) any financial instruments or to participate in any particular trading strategy in any jurisdiction in which such an offer or solicitation would violate applicable laws or regulations. [sczin11] Dg 2013 imf consultation states pre sadaam + 20% [Tex1] millionday Very well said,, we should copy and save that info [OOTW] Md from my research, every exchange regime chosen, is respective to that country - so i agree with you [DinarGroupie] sczin11 does that also mean float? [millionday] ernier EXACTLY MY FRIEND -- THANK YOU [awesomedtl] any new developments with the budget ? or is that for tuesday still?? [highstarr] As BGG said in the last call, even if the rate floats or comes out low otherwise, considering all the changes going on in country, the market supply and demand will sling it quickly to a higher rate anyway. I think BGG said probably a month or so. Who knows how much longer well wait, but for now Ive accepted that calculators still allow 1166 as a multiplier (or at least mine does ). And the WTO could grant full membership accession at the 1166 currency rate. For example, Vietnam is a full member, despite its present currency rate. [sczin11] Dg, no [larrykn] the ? is where will is start from on the float [awesomedtl] million what are we waiting for ? as far as this event now? just the cbi to change the rate? [clay] Vietnam is not allowed to vote [awesomedtl] clay they didnt accept my vote either lol [millionday] highstarr THAT IS VIETNAMS REALITY RATE HUN – EVEN THOUGH IT APPEARS TO BE OFF IT IS NOT -- THAT IS THEIR ACTUAL REALITY RATE – THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE FROM IRAQ -- THAT IS NOT IRAQ`S REALITY RATE AND THEY CAN ONLY JOIN THE WTO WITH THEIR CURRENCY PRICED AT ITS ACTUAL VALUE -- REALITY [jtank] and iraq has an imposed rate now [clay] And no vast resources [sczin11] Clay, vietnam is a country, cant vote! [ernier] Yes, there will be a float. All currencies float. But, there will be a reality rate set by the CBI before that takes place. They will set a rate and then it will be traded internationally like all other currencies. It will not float from 1166. That is not the reality or pervieved value rate. [millionday] awesomedtl YES AND FOR THE INVESTMENT AND BANKING LAWS TO BE LOOKED OVER TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE RIGHT -- THEY ARE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW [tbob] nobody can explain it like you can millionday -- your knowledge an understanding of the economic subject is beyond compare millionday] clay WHAT DO YOU MEAN - VOTE IN WHAT? [clay] Md on any trade decisions [millionday] THEY CAN WITH ANY ORGANIZATION THAT THEY ARE A MEMBER OF -- ACTIVE [millionday] IF THEY CAN NOT VOTE THEY ARE NOT AN ACTIVE MEMBER [highstarr] millionday So could Iraqs reality rate be 1166, as far as WTO is concerned, until market supply and demand actually change it? [clay] Was thought different [millionday] highstarr NO -- NOT AT ALL -- THAT IS AN IMPOSED RATE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR REALITY RATE FOR ENTRY TO THE GLOBE OR FOR TRADE OF ANY KIND OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY heartland] with all that has been accomplished, do you feel that Iraq is trying to bring this to a completion this month? [clay] Md will Isis problem hold this back [millionday] clay THEY HAVE A VOTE IN ANY ORGANIZATION THEY ARE AN ACTIVE MEMBER IN -- HOWEVER THE RATE THEY HAVE SET RIGHT NOW IS THEIR REALITY RATE – THEY HAVE A LOW GDP AND MANY OTHER DECIDING FACTORS THAT CAUSE THE CALCULATION TO SHOW SUCH A LOW RATE -- BUT IT IS REALITY [millionday] heartland I DO NOT KNOW THE TIME THEY ARE SHOOTING FOR BUT IF THEY ARE TRYING TO OPEN THE BUDGET ON OCT 1ST OF THIS YEAR – THEY HAVE PAYMENTS IN THIS BUDGET TO INTERNATIONAL DEBTS AND ALSO DISTRIBUTION OF DISPLACED AND OIL PROCEEDS THAT WILL GO TO CITIZENS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY AND INSIDE AS WELL --- THEY WILL NEED TO HAVE AN EXCHANGABLE CURRENCY AND BE INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FOR THAT TIMELINE TO BE MET [highstarr] Is reality rate a formal business or currency term or dinarland lingo? I cant find it online to learn more about it. millionday] IN ORDER FOR THE DINAR TO BE INTERNATIOALLY RECOGNIZED AND EXCHANGABLE -- THEY HAVE TO HAVE A REALITY RATE CALCULATED – NOT THE IMPOSED RATE -- OR FAIR TRADE OF THEIR PRODUCT (THE DINAR) WILL BE PRICED WRONG AND THEY WILL LOSE [hstrymknwmn] High star I think it has been in a few articles out if Iraq [millionday] highstarr IT IS A REFERENCE TO THE RATE THAT A COUNTRY HAS mudder] highstarr - You only need to understand that iraq currently has a IMPOSED RATE that will be removed very soon.. [millionday] A REALITY RATE MEANS ITS ACTUAL RATE IT HAS FOR ITS CURRENCY [millionday] WE WILL SEE YOU ALL TONIGHT AT 730 EST ______________________________ 04 - Bits and Pieces Friday Night. 09/12/2014. Stage3Alpha: Mr. Chen September 12, 2014 This is a list of possible traps at the bank that I have heard and some off the top of my head. 1) bank changes the wording of the contract making this exchange be an investment. 2) bank makes you deposit the money into their bank and not take it all out and move it to another bank. 3) bank requires that you keep 50% or so of your exchanged currency in their bank. 4) bank says they will pay you out in an annuity format. 5) bank says that they own your money, so if the bank defaults they can use your money to pay off their debts, bail-in scenario 6) You have to sign and NDA with gov/HSA/other gov agency at point of exchange if you get contract rates. -----a) NDA can limit how long you are not able to talk about the exchange with anyone other than someone that has signed the NDA with you. ---------b) some NDAs might let you talk with others that have signed an NDA but are not present with you ------------- C) NDA can be updated at anytime and you will have to come back in and sign it 7) when you are exchanging you tell the banker that you also have reserves and that you want them to give you the contract for that too. Banker says okay. You return a week or two later to the same banker and the banker does not give you the contract rate or gives you a contract rate that is lower than what you had initially received. 8) bankers use your money for investments without your knowledge because you allowed them to make investments for x amount of dollars out of your whole account. ---------a) for instance you have 10 millions USD you tell the bank you want to invest some of it. Your wealth advisor says how about 2 million and you say okay. Your wealth advisor makes risky investments and you lose all of the 2 million. ---------------b) your wealth advisor is given 2 million of the 10 million you have for investments. Your wealth advisor makes a lot of trades in each month for a year. You have to pay your wealth advisor for every single trade that he/she makes 9) you do not make sure your entire money is insured and you lose the majority of it due to bank default or other thing such as fraud or someone hacking into your account. 10) you do not allocate the right amount of money for taxes for the year and you end up having to pay more than what you have because you spent the majority of it. 11) banker tries to tell you that there is only one rate and gives you the rate. banker will not let you see all the rates. 12) bank charges a ridiculous amount of transaction fees on the exchange. 13) make the banker count the money in front of you and receive a copy of the receipt for the amount that they calculated. Calculate the rate times the amount you have minus the transaction fee amount with you smartphone or calculator to double check their math. Feel free to add more :) ********** DinarGrubber > Mr. Chen These are cabal-type traps. I dont believe underhanded moves like these are things we will have to worry about once the banking system changes hands. Changes will run deep once we emerge on the other side. I even remember Zap alluding to new types of corporations, trusts and other entities to bulletproof our funds from all litigation. Things will be different (read: better). Be vigilant anyway of course, but not to the point of paranoia. Mr. Chen > DinarGrubber I would much rather be safe and make great decisions on what is before me. DinarGrubber > Mr. Chen I always read anything I sign. I also strike out verbiage, negotiate, and re-draft if needed. Im just saying the banks wont be loaded with arch-villians looking to stiff us. Bankers will follow the new rules framed for this transaction, and violations will result in federal penalties. This once-in-history wealth transfer comes from above, and will be monitored from above. IMO, well be treated like royalty, not like marks. ************ omegaman Parliament is seated and accepted. RV will happen sometime after the markets close on Friday and could take until Sunday night. TRNs available at banks on Monday. BaNDiTo.RoX > omegaman Also banks has a 4-6 hr window on Saturday to make all changes and it takes affect Sunday afternoon around 4-5 PM EST and the markets open 9 AM EST Monday. LVegas > omegaman Curious: Isnt the RV timeline you mentioned for PUBLIC announcement? And are we not a group? So we should be ready to go as a group any moment? Jorel Just heard that the USA was paid today for its IQD. Who knows if its true, but that is what I was just told. Sqwatchy September 12, 2014 at 8:16pm HIGH ALERT as of 16 minutes ago ************** Louie67 How many more deadlines wow, EXOGEN > Louie67 They are working RIGHT now trying to get this completed TODAY Aloha Leslie > EXO, who is they? Are we talking about the Ministers or ????? Just for clarification. Mahalo... EXOGEN > Aloha Leslie Abadi, PTB, USA…. They , the USA & NATO are selecting the Minister of Defense & Interior………NOT IRAQ EXOGEN > as of 20 minutes ago ************************ GET: Topic: The urgency of doing. Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Being willing is not enough; we must do. L. da Vinci ************************* TNT: don :The RV was scheduled Friday AM at 10 (today) Iraqi time. Iraq has sent memos out worldwide to agencies and banks. Many countries in Middle East seeing announcements on TV and internet that the Economic Reforms are happening and that some people are CEing. The time got altered slightly, then settled on some windows over next 24 hrs. (3AM tonight Iraqi time and 10 AM Iraq time tomorrow (midnight MDT tonight) were actually mentioned, but they back peddled when asked in Q&A. ************************* I4U: [BigDog-OH] 9-12-14 tman23: Saudi Arabia just announced they will reopen their Embassy is Iraq...As we all witness the Arab Summit 2 years ago held in Iraq...many of the countries called Maliki an Iranian puppet and refused to send their top diplomats... So the Saudis reopening their Embassy is a HUGE positive sign. [BigDog-OH] Basel III monitoring results published by the Basel Committee bis.org/press/p140911.htm BigDog-OH] U.S. import prices post largest decline in nine months reuters/article/2014/09/12/us-usa-economy-importprices-idUSKBN0H71EQ20140912 ************ [Dinarian77] My personal friend Steve has been a broker for bank to bank currency exchanges for over 30 years. Hes been one of my best friends during that 30 years. [Dinarian77] He called me up 3 days ago and asked me if I knew about the dinar, I told him I did. [Dinarian77] without heasitation he said buy Zimbabwe Dollars as much as you can. [Dinarian77] I find it very interesting He didnt say, buy VND or Dinar. [sagefemme] Dinarian77 wow ok that is interesting did you ask? what did he say about zim [Dinarian77] He fully expects the Zim to out perform all other currencies [SCgunner] Dinarian77 thats not normally the pumpers choice, which exotic to by, it is directed by the Traders ya know? [sagefemme] Dinarian77 but why the zim [Dinarian77] Hes looking at what these nations have in natural resources I guess. [Dinarian77] this thing was supposed to go down last night, Obama was supposed to announce the new Iraqi govenment. He did not. . . the powers that be in Europe are delaying this as long as possible… The end of September is the back wall on this taking place. [Dinarian77] If it goes any longer than that, its going to cause severe economic hardship in the US [Dinarian77] The powers that be in Europe do not want this to take place as it will mean they lose power and influence. The longer it goes delayed the higher the stakes….That is all I have. Landons Nana: BGG: Abadi appears to really be doing right by Iraq...he passed on the Paris Conference to get these two critical Ministers seated. hes asking for them not to use the term Prime Minister any more - or Commander in Chief... just call him chief Minister... very interesting... ______________________________ 05 - Tidbits from Exogen and Stage3Alpha Members Late Friday Afternoon. 09/12/2014. Stage3Alpha: Falling oil price tilts political, economic balance in U.S. favor Posted by EXOGEN on September 12, 2014 at 2:35pm BY DAVID SHEPPARD AND RANIA EL GAMAL LONDON/KUWAIT Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:08am EDT Gasoline prices at a 76 gas station are displayed in Encinitas, California, February 19, 2013. CREDIT: REUTERS/MIKE BLAKE (Reuters) - The drop in oil prices to their lowest in two years has caught many observers off guard, coming against a backdrop of the worst violence in Iraq this decade, heightened tensions between the West and Russia, and sanctions against Iran .... But as rising supplies of North American crude and tepid demand have pushed prices LCOc1 below $100 a barrel, the move underlies how the shale oil revolution is creating a political and economic advantage for Washington and its Western allies. Russia and Iran are heavily reliant on oil sales and face budget shortages at current price levels, analysts say, weakening their position when negotiating over Ukrainian sovereignty or the Iranian nuclear deal. And higher oil production from the United States as well as Canada is providing a buffer against the threat of retaliatory supply curbs from Russia or further disruptions to supplies from the Middle East. The increase in production is definitely benefiting the United States, said Professor Paul Stevens at the Chatham House think tank in London. The Russians are very exposed to lower oil prices. We dont know to what extent it will influence their behavior in Ukraine, but theyre certainly going to feel pressure on their budget. Russias ruble currency has already fallen to a historic low against the dollar as its economy is hit by sanctions from the United States and European Union over its involvement in Ukraine. That increases the price Russians must pay for many imports, from vegetables to luxury goods. Daily oil production in the United States has risen sharply since the financial crisis. In 2010 the country still imported half of the crude it consumed, but the U.S. Energy Information Administration forecasts that will fall to little more than 20 percent next year. Even as the United States has largely maintained its ban on exporting crude, it has left a lot of barrels from West Africa and the Middle East looking for new homes. While U.S. energy company profits might take a hit from lower prices, consumers will benefit more from spending less at the pump. For Iran, a lower oil price not only harms its economy, already hit by sanctions that specifically try to cut its oil sales. It also means there is less pressure on the West to reach a deal quickly over Tehrans nuclear program. With oil prices falling, the immediate economic incentive of getting Iranian barrels smoothly back to the world market is diminished, analysts say, allowing Western powers more leeway to drive a harder deal. Some energy analysts even say Islamic State, which has captured a number of oilfields in Syria and Iraq, will be hurt by lower oil prices as it is forced to discount further the black market sales that help fund the militant group. Recent advances by the Islamic State (IS) have disrupted Middle East politics and shifted incentives for key regional and global players, Bank of America-Merrill Lynch analyst Francisco Blanch said this week, arguing that U.S. ally Saudi Arabia may be comfortable with lower prices. Lower oil would hurt IS, Iran and Russia, but help the West, Blanch said, adding that he saw the breakeven price for Russias budget at around $105 a barrel. OPEC REACTION For Saudi Arabia, the worlds largest crude exporter, lower prices may create some short-term budgetary pain, but observers believe the kingdom is willing to absorb the impact as it does greater damage to regional rivals such as Iran. Saudi Arabia has said for years that it will supply the world with the oil it needs. Have you ever seen me concerned? Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi said on Thursday in Kuwait when asked whether the price fall was worrying the kingdom. This is not the first time prices change, they always change. Its a dynamic process, he told Reuters. Other Gulf delegates attending a meeting of oil ministers from the region said the price drop was unlikely to spur action from the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) unless crude fell below $85 a barrel. It is a fact which is bound to focus minds in the Gulf and in wider OPEC but we also need to remember that this follows many months with good prices from their point of view, Samuel Ciszuk, senior adviser on energy security to the Swedish Energy Agency, told the Reuters Global Oil Forum. Saudi Arabia is likely to micromanage supplies at it has for a number of years, Ciszuk said, but it was unlikely to push for an official OPEC supply cut. While U.S. oil output has been rising fast, part of the big jump in supplies has come from countries that remain at risk of supply disruptions, including Libya and Nigeria. No fundamental improvement in the stability of those countries has actually taken place, which means that the added supply is extremely vulnerable, Ciszuk said. Libyas oil production has rebounded to more than 800,000 barrels per day, the National Oil Corp said this week, eight times the amount of just a few months ago. But the increase, which followed a deal to end a near year-long rebel port blockade, has come at a time when the government is losing control of the country, with an armed group taking over the capital Tripoli last week. For now, however, the U.S.-led surge in supply and weak demand have seen traders start to store additional barrels as they wait for prices to recover. Given the volatile situation in the MENA (Middle East and North Africa) region, the International Energy Agency said, this is a benefit to global energy security. ********** EXOGEN Follow the CLUES!!!!!!!!!!! Martin >Yes EXO needs to give a PSA (projected Santa arrival). I need to get milk and cookies. EXOGEN > Martin Santa should have been here today at the time posted on yesterdays clock (9:00 PM) Lady Smarz > EXOGEN I was hoping you would say that because I was looking for Santa at that time. Hope is still Alive. Rico all the posting you did last night and then the post from tnt we all felt it was happening. wow a let down. EXOGEN > Rico... iTS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW GO READ THE BLOG carol Sunshine, How do you feel about today being a great day for dinarland? I was happy to see all the post by EXO I hope things are a go and, you have a great Friday :D Sunshine62 > carol Carol. You know Friday is always a great day for an RV. We are certainly at the best place we have ever been, and personally I think we just could not get any closer!! You have a great day too ************ INTEL CLUES & IMAGES 3:58 PM EST Posted by EXOGEN on September 12, 2014 at 3:58pm Guesses: FD September 12, 2014 at 4:08pm Europe has started exchanging through banks wealth managers. USA waiting. Wow soon is our turn :) robert private exchanges through bank wealth managers happening right now hopefully mon/tues public will be next Larry Bush Private groups receiving phone calls and e-mails for the 800 numbers in the USA. L T The private groups or public expected to go in 24-72 hours? L T The private groups or public expected to go in 24-72 hours? Do the groups need to be done before public can go? D.K.C. > L T I think all of Dinarland (Those paying attention) is considered a group EXOGEN > D.K.C. CORRECT **********. G T September 12, 2014 Clues...... Currency Exchanges have Started in Europe (CONFIRMED) through Banks Wealth Managers United Nations Are FINISHED with The Balancing the GCR? USA is Waiting for the Private Exchanges to Start Should be Receiving #800s via Email & Phone Calls Projected in the NEXT 24 Hours Defense & Interior Ministers will be voted on in Iraq on Tuesday!!! ********** G T > The RV/GCR & The Vote in Iraq are 2 Separate Issues. The CBI was ready to release the RV either at 9AM (EDT)!this Morning or 9PM (EDT) last Night!!! They have Told ALL BANKS TO BE READY!!! It could go to 72 Hrs.....But if their HONORING Bank Exchanges in the Middle East & Europe NOW.......You think Theyll wait 72 hrs????? I Dont Think So.....(IMO) AND EXOs Clues say 24 Hrs ************* Mr. Chen some countries have already started exchanging in the middle east and into Europe confirmed by wealth management of banks balancing of countries currencies for the GCR is finished. waiting in the USA for 1800#s and emails to exchange. USA projected to start exchanging in 24 to 72 hours. Everything is moving at a fast/top speed to completion. Department of Defense and Interior of Iraq will be voted on Tuesday. Make sure you have your defense mechanisms ready to avoid all the traps at exchange. There are many strategies and plans to have for the exchange process, look them over and find the one thats best for you. G T September 12, 2014 at 5:11pm Additional Clues........ Make sure you have ALL Your Plans laid out Be careful of ALL The Possible Traps they have Planned !!!! ______________________________
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