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So in the beginning we have a small universe???? Where did that come from? Natural causes did not exists at one time correct? If Natural causes did not exist then how can natural causes be the creator (hawking said all that existed was the laws of physics***hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html) I quote hawking from the same above source(his blog): At this time, the Big Bang, all the matter in the universe, would have been on top of itself. The density would have been infinite. It would have been what is called, a singularity. At a singularity, all the laws of physics would have broken down. This means that the state of the universe, after the Big Bang, will not depend on anything that may have happened before, because the deterministic laws that govern the universe will break down in the Big Bang. The universe will evolve from the Big Bang, completely independently of what it was like before. Even the amount of matter in the universe, can be different to what it was before the Big Bang, as the Law of Conservation of Matter, will break down at the Big Bang. Read the part that says This means that the state of the universe, after the Big Bang, will not depend on anything that may have happened before. but you see still no answer for how that came to be. Well the more you read on you see Hawking realized the problem ---** Since events before the Big Bang have no observational consequences, one may as well cut them out of the theory, and say that time began at the Big Bang. Events before the Big Bang, are simply not defined, because theres no way one could measure what happened at them. This kind of beginning to the universe, and of time itself, is very different to the beginnings that had been considered earlier. These had to be imposed on the universe by some external agency. Since the events before the Big Bang have no observational consequences one must cut them out the theory wait why cut them out, Hawking tell us why ---Events before the Big Bang, are simply not defined, because theres no way one could measure what happened at them. This kind of beginning to the universe, and of time itself, is very different to the beginnings that had been considered earlier. These had to be imposed on the universe by some external agency. So now Hawking says were talking about a different beginning---but were talking about the same beginning..the definition of the beginning, the un-caused first cause or #unmovedmover Picture this: Take your laws of nature. Put them down on a paper. Everything must remain within these laws correct? Then how could these laws have been created? Natural laws didnt exist at one time; then they did (and created everything you say?). How? something that does not exist can not make itself. This is precisely Dawkins vs Lennox debate. The origins of the laws of Physics--figure that out--figure out who made or how this universe came to be. Personally i believe everything Hawking says, I say just that first singularity was and is God. There is no reason to reject science. You have two answers; God created everything or nothing created its own laws which then these laws made everything (did those laws make matter too?) It seems to me God is the more logical conclusion.
Posted on: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 19:39:40 +0000

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