To my friends in the USA and Philippines I want to announce that - TopicsExpress



          

To my friends in the USA and Philippines I want to announce that me and Alfread Flores ( iron creek ) are no longer partners and I want to explain the reason and true story behind the making of iron creek and my leaving the business. In 2006 me and Shawn Handy where partners the sweaters and Roundheads came from Shawn not direct from Carol Newsmith and Jumper like Alfread said in his interview Alfread has never even met Carol and me and him met jumper at a derby a couple of years back. Please someone ask alfread for a picture where hes picking out cocks from jumper , Carol or ow it does not exist. Well when me and Shawn split ways I kept all fowl and me and Alfread became partners under the agreement that the lines where always going to be mine and that I was going to resale all the birds. Now lets talk about the lines the in in came from Carol Newsmith but Shawn later bread a half Glen Justice half Larry Romero cock into them. The out and outs came from a pen that Dink and Jumper made and Shawn stole. The Roundheads came from OW ,Shawn stole a cock that had won a big main in Georgia and one hen ,OW and Mike linear can attest to this. The Greys I got from Andy Robertson but I only got one old bates cock and 2 old grey hens Andy can attest to this this lot was never intended to make pure Greys out of it. The Yellow leg hatch and blueface I got from my friend Gator but I nor Alfread got any hens just blueface and yellow leg hatch cocks to breed over the sweaters. Everything was fine with the market in mexico and the US. But we saw the potential market in the Philippines We then asked assistance from an old friend that now resides in Philippines Victor Sierra as we know his credentials as being one of the leaders of one of the biggest association of cockers in Philippines And is well respected in the Philippine community. It was also good timing as gator teamed up with Victor in sending the blueface and yellow leg hatch to breed and fight. We offered victor cash sharing for sales in Philippines as we didnt ever had a single customer before this. Me and Alfread under the agreement that we where going to split the profit me Alfred and Sierra. Well Sierra never really asked for money as he even paid full amount of 3 brood cocks he requested to buy. But more on wanting to help so we told him everything goes thru him in Philippines Alfred also agreed as again we didnt have a single sale nor any reference to get into the market in Philippines as alfread never has previous experience showing in derbies with no name what so ever in this sport. We needed Sierra numerous titles and his brand of quality birds to gain interest in Philippines. So Sierra started posting the 3 cocks he got from us with a very positive note and when the Philippine public saw that Sierra has started breeding these Sweaters of Iron creek it was a awakening for us and now the Iron Creek name is being daunted as the next big thing. It was a TON of interest and sales were pouring from everywhere. Even the biggest Philippine breeders bought many and a lot of sales from Sierras friends that got from him. It was all good until Sierra noticed that Alfred was sending to his friends and fellow filipinos birds that are not what was ordered. Sierras friend would ask if this certain sweater in the picture is available and alfread will say yes but when they received the birds it was not the one. Sierra confronted alfread and he said it will not happen again. But the next order again alfread switched birds and did that with an order Sierras father ordered. It cost sierra his own money to refund his friends the and was stuck with numerous sweaters in his farm. Sierra also found out that alfread was selling to certain breeders direct and didnt acknowledge the agreement. I was so ashamed about this and sierra never bothered to ask for his share or money and stepped back as he didnt want any part of this cheating of alfread switching birds. And that was the end of Sierra involvement with iron creek. Well after Alfread saw all the money to be made in the Philippines Alfread kicked me me out of the deal me under the pretense that I owed him money. And Sierra told me buddy hes going to steal and break his word with you sooner or later a man that steals from one person will do it from everyone sooner or later its in his genes he cant help it. Well me and Alfread made a deal Alfread keeps the Philippine and USA market I keep the Mexican market. Well a couple of things started to happen one he started selling crossed cocks and stags as pure ones ( including blueface ) , started selling the same rooster in a picture over and over again he was remarking everything in in. He sold over 100 N N sweaters in 1 season. How can 1 pen produce so many? Its impossible. Its because he used numerous pens using assorted sweaters as broodcocks to provide for the orders. In Fact Sierra gave me a tip and got to the bottom of things and we found out he marks it N N punch, NN slit, N N slit punch, NN punch slit. Each one is totally different sweaters not even the original Nesmith blood. He then started selling to Mexico well thats when I said am not taking it anymore or being a part of robing or misleading people and thats why am writing this be careful of this lying deceitful thief. And the funny part is that alfread thinks hes the next Jonnhy jumper and he forgot how he got where hes at.
Posted on: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 04:59:16 +0000

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